Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (422 mails)

[Rafa Grimán <rafagriman@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi :)

El Wednesday 21 January 2009, Henne Vogelsang escribió:
> Hi,
>
> on 01/21/2009 03:17 PM Rafa Grimán wrote:
> > El Friday 16 January 2009, Henne Vogelsang escribió:
> > > Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > >  - Why do I have to report a problem upstream, when we report all
> > > > problems found to Novell's Bugzilla? Surely you don't want us to
> > > > subscribe to the billion bug reporting systems upstream of all
> > > > packages?
> > >
> > > If you dont want to help then let it be. Then i have to do it...
> >
> > He's not saying he doesn't want to help nor is he "not helping". At least
> > IMHO he helps quite a lot on the mailing lists.
>
> That was not what i was saying. I was saying if he does not want to help
> _me_ with _this_ then say so and i do it myself.


Sorry,. I misunderstood what you wrote 0:)


> > Anyways, getting back to the subject. IMHO, Carlos has a point:
> >
> > - do we have to open bug reports upstream or do we have to open
> >   bug reports in Novell's bugzilla? After all, we're openSUSE
> >   users.
>
> Depends on the bug. If you are unsure i suggest you go first with the
> the openSUSE bugzilla.
>
> > - do you suggest we open bug reports upstream for every package?
>
> What makes you think i would suggest that? See above...


As I said, I misunderstood what you wrote.


> > - Yes, I agree: smolt is NOT a Novell/SUSE project, but you're
> >   packaging it. If you don't like receiving mails about those
> >   packages: DON'T package them.
>
> Erm wtf? I don't even know how to respond to that.
>
> > YOU (Novell/SUSE) are our (users) interface to the developer community.
>
> You are a very demanding person aren't you? Should i maybe also bring
> you coffee and your slippers in the morning. Or maybe wash you car?


I don't drink coffee (in fact, I don't drink any caffeinated drink) nor have a 
car ;) So, no thanks. No need for that. Regarding the slippers, I like 
walking barefooted. In any case, thanks for the offering, greatly 
appreciated :)

Anyways, me demanding? Just because I say that Novell/SUSE is our interface to 
the developer community? I don't get it.

If you're saying I'm demanding because I wrote:

        "Yes, I agree: smolt is NOT a Novell/SUSE project, but you're
         packaging it. If you don't like receiving mails about those
         packages: DON'T package them."

Then take into account:

        1.- I said I'm sorry that I misunderstood your previous e-mail

        2.- that I also said that I know what it's like, because I have
            the same response e-mails regarding 3rd party products. It's
            in the part you omitted:

        "I know what it is to work at a vendor and I know what it's like
         to be the interface between users and 3rd party vendors (aka
         Partners) [...]"


> Get real. I simply asked Carlos, who is very much capable of doing so,
> to report a bug upstream. There is no general rule where to report bugs
> implied.


That's why I asked these questions: I misunderstood what you wrote.


> There is not implied that i don't want to receive bugreports 
> for my packages.
>
> I find your mail pretty insulting. Thanks.


Mine? At least I don't write "wtf" or "Get real". I was just asking questions. 
I didn't think you were going to get so upset with my questions. My bad.

Have a nice day.

   Rafa

-- 
"We cannot treat computers as Humans. Computers need love."

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