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Re: [opensuse-factory] Plan for 11.2?
- From: Hans Witvliet <hwit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:56:16 +0100
- Message-id: <1231707376.8140.20.camel@t43>
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 15:56 +0000, Rob OpenSuSE wrote:
I know that the price of mem and cpu is constantly dropping, but that
should never be an excuse from a runaway OS-footprint.
Some applications need much mem, No problem with that.
And if you run a lot of them cocurrently, its your own fault.
One of the problems was getting seriously at the 10.1 release, was that
a number of nice applications were installed automatically. Thankfully
this unrequested eyecandy is dropped,
But it always remains a tradeoff between ease of installation for
newbees, and the hassle of detecting and removing unwanted stuff.
Even more when it is tangled with strange dependencies.
Advertising all of the (new) eye-candy is nice, bluntly installing them
is something else, not?
hw
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2009/1/11 Putrycz, Erik <Erik.Putrycz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:It wasn't me, but i've said it a number of times.
On old systems, bloat was causing a few megabytes of extra memory
access, now it can be 100-400MB. And it's no 11 cycles, but CPUs wait
100's on cache misses, never mind if there's a page fault and disk
access involved.
In my experience, it takes 2 generation of software to get things right.
Someone has experessed the opinion that memory consumption is escalating.
I know that the price of mem and cpu is constantly dropping, but that
should never be an excuse from a runaway OS-footprint.
Some applications need much mem, No problem with that.
And if you run a lot of them cocurrently, its your own fault.
One of the problems was getting seriously at the 10.1 release, was that
a number of nice applications were installed automatically. Thankfully
this unrequested eyecandy is dropped,
But it always remains a tradeoff between ease of installation for
newbees, and the hassle of detecting and removing unwanted stuff.
Even more when it is tangled with strange dependencies.
Advertising all of the (new) eye-candy is nice, bluntly installing them
is something else, not?
hw
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