Ok......even though there were some dependency issues, I updated KDE 4.1 to 4.2 beta 2. There is indeed some things we've asked for included, but still not "there" yet. I'm still looking for bugs so will report back after playing some more with it. I will mention one major error is that gl screen savers with nVidia video, maybe other video, display in a small box in the upper left corner of the screen, with the rest of the screen in white. This is most annoying as it's what happened in the beta of 11.0. I didn't get it with KDE 3.5.10 on 11.1 so I have to assume it's a KDE 4.1 and 4.2 bug. Fred -- "Politicians and diapers need to be changed regularly -- and for the same reason." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org