Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (581 mails)

[Oddball <monkey9@xxxxxx>]

Rob OpenSuSE schreef:
> 2008/12/20 Birger Kollstrand <birger.kollstrand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>   
> > and as a side note, I think we sould care LESS about KDE 4.1 vs 4.2 or
> > Gnome 2.x. It's what the users can get done withn it that counts. Both
> > current major desktops are usable for years to come.....
> >     
>
> Not the opinion of many KDE-3.5.x users, who have not been converted
> by KDE4 yet, it's getting better but, 4.3 is going to be an important
> release, for KDE.  If it's not right again in 4.3, then the community
> will want a 3.5 release, that can't be included officially because
> noone wants to commit to maintenance for 2+ more years.
>   
The 4 is getting better, you just have to loosen the ties from the 3,
and let it go..
it is the past already. ;)

>   
> > Maybe a new thread should be started or is factory not the right place
> > to discuss contents?
> >     
>
> People need a reason to upgrade, and improvements to rarely used tools
> like Installers and Partitioners, won't cut much ice.  So your idea of
> looking at features is good.
>   
The polar caps are almost melted down, so if you want to cut ice, you
have to be quick.
The tools you mention, were very surely up to an overhaul, and they
still have to be tuned, but look much and much better than before.
Installer, partitioner and upgrade tools are the most important of the
distro.
They decide wetter people do- or don't like a distro to work with.
They are, so to speak, the 'Masters of Trust', you are willing to trust
your hardware to.
(in the past there were many discussions about this.)

The handles for new  and existing hardware have to be there, and if
possible, simple and understandable.. and Birger, i think you have a
point there in this post ;)

As always webstandards have to be included, how difficult this always
may sound, as also full media support.

As i notice still, is the not always flawlessly working networking and
video hardware drivers...

It would be very nice, if there would be made a breaktrough in these
matters, surely when adding extra time before the next release.

> This was addressed to you, so may be discussion can progress if you consider 
> it.
>
> 2008/12/17 Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov@xxxxxxx>:
>   
> > On Wednesday 17 December 2008 15:25:27 Birger Kollstrand wrote:
> >     
> > > 11. a standard yast module for server setup of net install of
> > > machines. This will aid in testing when there is a lot of machine
> > > variants to test. Easy restore to original config would be good also.
> > > (All server based :-) ) I have 15+ different computeres that I can
> > > test with , but it's to much work going back and forth now so I just
> > > use 2.
> > >       
> > What is missing in yast2-instserver? And for restoring configuration, you can
> > use autoyast Create Profile function and then deploy via autoyast.
> >     


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