Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (581 mails)

[Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@xxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday 09 of December 2008, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Matt Sealey wrote:
> > I can't even find the script that *starts* Compiz on a default install,
> > and one package recommended by most wikis and articles (compiz-kde) was
> > not installed for me.

 There is no script, the window manager in KDE is launched directly by the 
session manager, with the command it gets from the window manager during the 
previous session save (or as 'compiz ccp' on the first launch). See 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=389416 for details.

 As for the missing package, I can see compiz-kde4 installed with my 11.1 KDE4 
install, and if there is such a problem with KDE3, then you should probably 
report it to Compiz maintainers in bugzilla rathen than just complain here 
without a result.

>       That is a sore spot with me as well. Many of us relied on Fusion-Icon to
> start compiz when we wanted it running and then to stop it when we needed
> it stopped (like to play a video, or to work with rdesktop in seamless
> mode, and a host of others that don't do well with compositing) The
> fusion-icon systray icon provided a very convenient way for users that shy
> away from the command line and Alt+F2 to switch to and from kwin and
> between kde and emerald decorations.
>
>       This is where there is absolutely no consistency at all in the 
> development
> of KDE4 and the desktop for 11.1. With the staggering amount of resources
> and effort spent to dumb down konqueror for dolphin so that "it is easier
> for new users" instead of focusing on bringing KDE4 functionality up to
> par, you would think that fusion-icon would be a priority since it makes
> things "easier for new users." But, no.

 There is absolutely no consistency at all in your reasoning:
- the development of Dolphin is happening upstream, just like pretty much 
everything else in KDE4, and has little to do with openSUSE as such.
- the default compositing solution in KDE4 is KWin, so if anything in that 
area with regard to KDE4 is a priority, that's it, and that is also what 
makes it easier for new users.
- Fusion-Icon, as the name suggests, has nothing to do with KDE4, so if you 
have any problems with it, please report them to its developers
- KDE4 has quite a reasonable support for any window/compositing manager that 
reasonably complies with relevant specifications, and if there is anything 
missing, it can be added, just like has been already done several times.
- So, if you have any specific problems with window/compositing managers that 
have nothing to do with KDE, again, please discuss it with them.
- I think you forgot to blame KDE4 for the global warming or the extinction of 
dinosaurs.

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