Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (581 mails)

["Rajko M." <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sunday 07 December 2008 04:34:17 am Magnus Boman wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 21:03 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Saturday 06 December 2008 11:22:10 am David C. Rankin wrote:
> > >         This is not encouraging especially along with
> > > "[opensuse-factory] Problem with kupdateapplet in RC1" Will there be a
> > > way to completely disable Packagekit and have zypper work as it does in
> > > 11.0?
> >
> > I hope so David.
> > I would like to see package kit tested in 11.2 Alpha etc, or at least
> > accompanied with zypper as an option, but I'm not Colo.
>
> Do you guys do anything but complain about stuff you don't understand? 

Sincerely, we don't understand details, so we estimate future performance, 
taking historic activity in consideration. It is valid for any subject, in 
this case updater as a part of package management. It had troubles in the 
past and right now it doesn't work good, so what do you expect from us, not 
to tell that we have concerns.  

Now after Markus mentioned bug report, and Odball pointed to his report, is 
different, but in time I wrote post, I had in mind only current and past that 
I had in mind.


> I'm honestly a bit sick and tired reading your emails, especially when
> you make stuff up. 

Making mistake and making stuff up are two pairs of shoes. 
First happens to everyone that shows some activity, second is intentional 
malice. 

I wouldn't be with SUSE and openSUSE so long if I would disrespect their 
developer and user comunities, so scratch malice as driving force for my 
comment. In this case, even mistake is not in question, as what I don't have 
in mind when I make conclusion, I can't take into account. 

So, you are wrong in above statement claiming that someone made up something. 


> How about asking *how* and *if* you can do it differently if there is
> something you don't like?

If I would be developer "make it yourself" would be valid comment, but 
I'm on user side of opensource equation. 

I comment usage shortcommingas, not software models. 
I don't see source code, I see names in GUI.
So, new name PackageKit + missing old names zypper, or libzypp, makes 
PackageKit prime suspect for erratic behavior.  

When Markus answered on another post, I understood that PolicyKit is culprit, 
and that cleared confusion, which I can't tell for your post. 

-- 
Regards, Rajko
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