Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (581 mails)

[John Lange <john@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 23:45 -0600, Matt Sealey wrote:
> John Lange wrote:
> > I guess it's what we've come to expect when you run opensource 
>
> You must be kidding, right?
>
> Don't you remember when Vista was released? There wasn't a decent graphics
> driver for ANY chipset for a year.

No I'm not kidding. I can honestly answer "no" to that question. I've
never used vista in my life and so no, I don't remember what it was like
"upgrading" to Vista.

Interesting that you cite that example though; are we shooting for a
user upgrade experience equivalent to Vista?

> Fortunately the free Radeon drivers work great if you're running something
> lower than an r500.
>
> All the X2400 and X3400 owners are out of luck, and need to wait for AMD
> to do something,

I'm one of those poor bastards.

# lspci |grep VGA
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M76 [Radeon Mobility HD
2600 Series]

>  but the rest of us can run Compiz all we like. And the
> nVidia guys.. well.. they really are up the creek.

And apparently there are a large number of Intel video users who are
also up the creek.

> > My concern is that regardless of whatever perfectly reasonable
> > explanations there are for these things, its always a frustration for
> > the end users that their graphics cards don't work etc. etc.
>
> Like I said it's not just because it's Linux.

If OpenSUSE wants to compare itself to something then I think we should
be shooting for the Mac experience, not the Vista one. ;)

Again, I totally understand that this isn't something that SUSE has much
control over but if there can be better coordination between SUSE and
the critical driver makers that sure would be nice.

John Lange


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