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Re: [opensuse-factory] compiz suggestion
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 14:41 -0600, Matt Sealey wrote:

John Lange wrote:
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 11:49 -0500, Putrycz, Erik wrote:
I haven't heard anyone who got compiz working out of the box with OS
11.1.

Not only that but the there are no ATI drivers for 11.1 and there is
something preventing them from compiling that hasn't been resolved.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444912

If you have an ATI card running compiz and do an upgrade to 11.1, you
will experience a major "down-grade" with respect to your desktop
effects.

If the problem with the ATI drivers compiling is on the ATI side then I
understand we can't do much about that. If the problem is on the
OpenSUSE side then that should be resolved before shipping.

If the problem exists for all ATI and Nvidia cards then that is pretty
severe (Ship Stop?).

Don't AMD run repos for their drivers for 10.2, 10.3, 11.0 right now?

It wouldn't be a ship stopper just because a 3rd party proprietary vendor
didn't bother to release new drivers packaged for the new OS. And I
wouldn't expect AMD to be building drivers against 11.1 until it hit a
very late RC (now, or what will be RC3 I guess, which will then hit GM, and
then you can but hope..).

I guess it's what we've come to expect when you run opensource but I'm
getting more and more tired of being a second rate computer citizen.

I suppose if you look at it from another perspective; if Novell were to
release SLED 11, they likely wouldn't do it until all of the graphics
chip makers were lined up and had provided drivers. So in that respect I
guess we get what we pay for :|

My concern is that regardless of whatever perfectly reasonable
explanations there are for these things, its always a frustration for
the end users that their graphics cards don't work etc. etc.

Sorry, I guess at this point I'm just venting... If you read this far,
thanks for listening.

-
John Lange
www.johnlange.ca


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