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Re: [opensuse-factory] How can I install a pattern with zypper, in factory?
- From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:28:12 +0100 (CET)
- Message-id: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0811271311500.5078@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thursday, 2008-11-27 at 11:41 +0100, Jan Kupec wrote:
Ha! :-)
Well... the help text is already largish...
I was probably thinking of the man pages. And as a translator that has translated man pages, I can say that I hate translating man pages, I hate the format and not having real easy (non programmesse) writing tools. For a user, the man format is ok, but for a plain writer... ugh.
And I can tell you that we sweated translating zypper :-p
I don't know, but some lines like:
zypper in rpm_package
zypper in -t pattern pattern_package
at the bottom of the "zypper help in" text would help. Or at the top. Some samples of the possible combinations.
Yeah, I know... once you know what you have to look for. But, if you use the text search facility of "man" to search for "pattern" after going to the section "install", you find nothing in that section. You have to actually read the entire section and digest it before you notice what it means >:-)
Welcome!
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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On Thursday, 2008-11-27 at 11:41 +0100, Jan Kupec wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
which lacks examples. Once I know that I have to specify the package
Examples in the help texts? Hmm.. why not? :O) The only thing against i
can think of is the work it takes. You're welcome to help, BTW :O)
Ha! :-)
Well... the help text is already largish...
I was probably thinking of the man pages. And as a translator that has translated man pages, I can say that I hate translating man pages, I hate the format and not having real easy (non programmesse) writing tools. For a user, the man format is ok, but for a plain writer... ugh.
And I can tell you that we sweated translating zypper :-p
] Command options:
] -r, --repo <alias|#|URI> Install packages only from the
specified ] repository.
] -t, --type <type> Type of package (package, patch,
] pattern, product).
] Default: package.
The phrasing is not very fortunate.
Go ahead and suggest something better.
I don't know, but some lines like:
zypper in rpm_package
zypper in -t pattern pattern_package
at the bottom of the "zypper help in" text would help. Or at the top. Some samples of the possible combinations.
If, on the man page you look for the modifiers of "install", you see:
] t, type <type>
] Type of package (default: package). See the beginÖ
] ning of this subsection for the list of available
] package types.
Again, "pattern" is not mentioned.
"See the beginning of this subsection for the list of available
package types."
Yeah, I know... once you know what you have to look for. But, if you use the text search facility of "man" to search for "pattern" after going to the section "install", you find nothing in that section. You have to actually read the entire section and digest it before you notice what it means >:-)
Thus, IMO, the man page is not good enough for a person that doesn't
already know how to use zypper.
I know, we improve it gradually. In fact i plan to work on it in the
upcoming days. So thanx for pointing this out :O)
Welcome!
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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