Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (1210 mails)

[Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 02:06 +0100, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
> 2008/11/2 Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 19:30 +0100, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
> > > This one was reported:
> > > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-09/msg00538.html
> > > Apparently Liberation Fonts
> > > (http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/05/09/liberation-fonts/) are seen
> > > like a good enough open alternative (I have not even tested them, but
> > > I believe openSUSE).
> >
> > I've just downloaded and tested them out, and they're less than adaquate
> > as a replacement for the agfa-font's Sans as a font for the interface.
> > In particular to me, the spacing seems off (too close together) and the
> > bold font (as used on the window title bar) doesn't look right.
> >
> > Is there anyway to bring back agfa-fonts at least until the Liberation
> > Sans are good enough as a drop-in replacement?
>
> Looking at the liberation-fonts package from openSUSE:Factory OBS
> project I see the package uses version 0.1. Looking at
> https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/ seems the
> latest stable version is 1.04... I know *nothing* about fonts, but if
> the 0.1 is the first version from the RedHat announcement they lack
> any hinting information.
>
> If there is really a problem (now OBS has the latest versions, true?)
> I would also look at /etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf from fontconfig
> package. This file disables antialias and autohinting for a list of
> know good fonts... *perhaps* liberation fonts should be added (perhaps
> they are already here, I'm not using Factory).
>
> I could open a bug report, but I would hit against the version freeze.
> I suppose coolo is the one that could authorize an exception, but
> someone with a better understanding of the situation should look at it
> first.

The version of Liberation Fonts in Factory right now is
liberation-fonts-0.1-122.3.

Unfortunately, adding Liberation Sans to suse-post-user.conf'slist of
autohinting and antialiasing-disabled fonts does nothing to help, at
least to my eyes.

Even if Liberation Fonts are going to be used, there are still two
issues: (please note I use GNOME, so this is a GNOME-centric list).
1. Liberation fonts are not installed by default from the DVD as
agfa-fonts were.
2. Instead of replacing the bad-looking default Sans, Liberation adds
it's own Liberation Sans font. The downside to this is that GNOME & GDM
are set by default to use Sans, so the better Liberation font is not
chosen by default.

I'd open a bug report against the fact that Liberation Sans isn't up to
par with agfa-font Sans yet, and shouldn't be considered as a
replacement, if we can determine that that's what's needed.
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