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Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta 3: Desktop machine hibernated on its own
- From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:02:40 +0100 (CET)
- Message-id: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0810302353590.4534@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 14:28 +0100, Holger Macht wrote:
Power management is nothing new, I have used it on MsDos many years back. But it is very problematic. You are taking the decision on to you (Novell), instead of asking: "do you want to...?"
You should have a setting somewhere in sysconfig, for example, where the owner (aka root) of the machine decides if the machine autohibernates or not by default.
Question for you: machine has no session opened, it is on the gdm login. There is nobody working on it. Shouldn't it hibernate? But it will not, AFAIK. Why does it have to hibernate if somebody is logged in?
Because if energy star compliance is so important, machine must conserve energy always...
No, I can't. Only for one user. I have to log in as each user and change it.
Even if one is gnome, the other kde? Or xfce? Or text?
Thanks. Better on notes for root. Not many years ago SuSE system emailed root with such news.
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 14:28 +0100, Holger Macht wrote:
No, there isn't anymore. Power Management is controlled on the desktop by
the user. And I think that's actually what 99% of all usual home users
want.
Yes, as long as we (users) make the decision to hibernate automatically or
not. It is different when you set the default to hibernate without asking
us.
As you said, it's just a decision which have to be made, others would
maybe say, wow, what a good default, it helps to save the environment.
Power management is nothing new, I have used it on MsDos many years back. But it is very problematic. You are taking the decision on to you (Novell), instead of asking: "do you want to...?"
You should have a setting somewhere in sysconfig, for example, where the owner (aka root) of the machine decides if the machine autohibernates or not by default.
Question for you: machine has no session opened, it is on the gdm login. There is nobody working on it. Shouldn't it hibernate? But it will not, AFAIK. Why does it have to hibernate if somebody is logged in?
Because if energy star compliance is so important, machine must conserve energy always...
For instance: my home machine serves a samba share to my external digital
TV box, so that it can do time shifting and recording. With your default of
hibernating, you can make it loose data!
That's advanced, you are root, you know what you do, you can change the
default. And yes, it will be in the release notes.
No, I can't. Only for one user. I have to log in as each user and change it.
And even on homes, a machine can have several users, and I have no click
If one user session isn't active, aka another user is logged in, the
inactive session won't trigger a autosuspend.
Even if one is gnome, the other kde? Or xfce? Or text?
and shoot method of changing that default. That's all I ask: either change
the default, or provide a click and shoot method (or CLI script at least)
to change that default system wide.
That would be an easy script calling 'sed', I'll provide one on the
upcoming wiki page.
Thanks. Better on notes for root. Not many years ago SuSE system emailed root with such news.
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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