Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (818 mails)

[Holger Macht <hmacht@xxxxxxx>]

On Wed 29. Oct - 14:04:09, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 13:27 +0100, Holger Macht wrote:
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> > > > Yes, all apps can do that: it's just a dbus call.
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> > > Do they do it, now? On 11.1? All of them?  :-(
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> > Assuming that it's mentioned in the release notes, user who use other
> > applications than the default ones, they also know how to change
> > the default settings.
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> If they know they have to change something! I didn't know.
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> I assume you mean that "gcc" is not a default app? Because it will not be 
> detected. Or thunderbird? My machine hybernated while I had a Thunderbird 
> session opened and connected to two remote imap servers.

The application does not have to be detected, it has to inform the
freedesktop.org interface that it's something doing and thus the system
should not be suspended. These days _every_ applications should be power
management aware, because it's just something omnipresent. So yes, a
bugreport agains Thunderbird, preferably upstream, would be a good idea.


> Plus, there is no _easy_ method for root to change this default systemwise. 

Root shouldn't have to do this, but the user. In most cases, for servers,
you don't have a full blows GNOME/KDE desktop at all, so this shouldn't be
an issue there. And nobody said it should be easy.

> Gconf-editor is broken in this respect (bugzilla filled), and an exact 
> command line to dissable autohibernation is not published, AFAIK.

I'll create a www.opensuse.org/EnergyStar page to include the rationale
and tips and tricks.

> > > > I'm not saying this setting makes sense by default -- I changed it on my
> > > > computer ;-) I'm merely explaining how things could work.
> > >
> > > How exactly do I disable  that setting for all the users?
> >
> > Change who's allowed to suspend the system in
> > /usr/share/PolicyKit/policy/org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.policy
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> Which is not easy!
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> I'm not a professional sysadmin (this is not SLES), so I have no idea how 
> to change that policy. First provide a GUI tool to change those settins, 
> then come back and tell us :-|

gnome-control-center -> Power Management

> Further: I do want to hybernate my machine, I do it several times a day. 
> But _I_, not you. On my command, when I know it is safe.

It's just the default, so you are free to change it.

Regards,
        Holger
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