Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (818 mails)

[Holger Macht <hmacht@xxxxxxx>]

On Sun 26. Oct - 20:11:18, Kevin Yeaux wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos E. R." <carlos.e.r@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "os-fctry" <opensuse-factory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta 3: Desktop machine hibernated on its 
> own
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> > nordi wrote:
> > > Vincent Untz wrote:
> > > > gnome-power-manager has some inhibit mechanisms. This means an
> > > > application can say "don't suspend" (eg, when you're burning a CD). And
> > > > the user can also control this with an applet.
> > >
> > > But if the user does not expect the system to shutdown he will not
> > > change any settings and might be very annoyed the first time that
> > > happens. So it should at least be mentionned in the release notes or,
> > > even better, be switched off for openSuse, just as suggested in the bug
> > > report.
> >
> > Absolutely. I was quite "disturbed", and I'd be very annoyed if it
> > weren't factory.
> >
> > > I also doubt that apache, gcc/make or $favoriteP2Pclient are capable of
> > > telling Gnome to leave the computer running. Even if a application can
> > > do that, can a KDE application tell Gnome, can a Gnome application tell
> > > KDE to not shut down the system?
> >
> > Absolutely.
> >
> > This thing needs a module in Yast.
> >
> > A module where root defines the overall policy for the entire system:
> >
> > - allow/disallow users to manually hibernate
> > - allow/disallow users to automatically hibernate when iddle
> > - force machine to automatically hibernate when iddle
> > - change policy depending on the hour: for example, if the machine is
> > iddle after hours, allow/force hibernate it.
> > - define admisible idling period
>
> There should be a (or at least there was, if it's not there anymore, I 
> haven't used Beta 3 yet) Power Management module in YaST. I'm sure it 
> probably has control over the g-p-m app too, so it applies to all users 
> (but I could be wrong).

No, there isn't anymore. Power Management is controlled on the desktop by
the user. And I think that's actually what 99% of all usual home users
want.

> As far as the setting, if the main desktop applications can tell the power 
> management system to not turn off because it's doing something important 
> (downloading podcasts in Banshee, burning a CD, etc.) then I wouldn't have 
> a problem with it. Users running servers, as was alluded to in an earlier 
> message, are probably savvy enough to check the power management system 
> settings before putting that machine into production use.

Regards,
        Holger
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