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Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta 3: Desktop machine hibernated on its own
  • From: Magnus Boman <captain.magnus@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:18:13 +1000
  • Message-id: <1225145893.4153.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 22:51 +0100, Stefan Behlert wrote:
On Oct 26, 08 11:46:42 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Magnus Boman wrote:
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:12 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Well, Magnus already has said that he would change the default.

Oh, I hope I didn't say that :-) I will try to get it changed as, in
my opinion, it shouldn't suspend by default.

Here's the bug report:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439018

Ah! I see the difference :-)

I can add my opinion to the bug, if you like. I certainly dislike that
thing being forced into us, and I very much want to disable it
system-wide.

Just imagine the damage for server-type machines! Novell will be
inundated with reports. Even for SLES/SLED: suppose an office where
you need to retrieve a file from a shared folder of a co-worker while
he is away.

A server machine that runs openSUSE is something different than a server
running SLES. I hope we agree on that.

This forced compliance thing is absurd, IMO.

for some, perhaps. For others not.
the reason, as said on other place is Energy Star compliance.
If openSUSE 11.1 will have this activated by default needs to be decided by
coolo and his product manager. It could - and may be should - different
than an Enterprise product.

For SLED, it would make sense as, in most cases, the Desktop would be
setup by system administrators. For openSUSE, people with limited
knowledge will likely think that something is wrong, either with the
install or with their machine. I really think we could gain a bad
reputation by having this by default.
I guess one way to solve it would be to ask the user if it's ok to
suspend when machine has been inactive for 30 minutes. On a multi-user
system, if one user answers Yes and another answers No, then PolicyKit
(ConsoleKit?) should not allow it to suspend if the user who answered No
is logged in.

Cheers,
Magnus

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