Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (818 mails)

[Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <dmacvicar@xxxxxxx>]

Susanne Oberhauser wrote:
> Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <dmacvicar@xxxxxxx> writes:
>
> A patch can trigger the installation of a pacakge that wasn't on
> your system before, can't it?
>   
No
> Sometimes the newest package is not good for everybody, and patches
> allow you to be selective on when to update a package and when not to
> update it.
>
>   
No.

Patch just conflict with the last version with the problem, so selecting 
the "patch" it will select the latest version
of the packages (from the same vendor).

If you are selecting an specific version of a package, then you are not 
operating over patches anymore.

Also, making a patch require an exact version of the package would have 
no sense for a dependency solver, as then updating to a newer version of 
the package would break the patch, unless a new patch obsoletes it, 
which would be quite a lot of work and confusion.
> For example, when it comes to drivers, patches can allow you to select
> specific package versions for specific hardware versions, using the
> modalias, while the packages overclaim they were good for everything.
>   
Also no.

Patches did not had different packages for different hardware. It is the 
solver that selects the packages based on the modalias. modalias has 
nothing to do with patches.

> Basically I think the package update is best for those repos that do
> not provide patches.
>   
Technically, unless you select a patch manually, a full system "update" 
is no real difference between packages and patches since patches are not 
installed. The result of applying all patches has to be the same as the 
result of updating all packages. As I said, it is just a different view.
> So why did I ask wether they can be done both at the same time?
>   
Again, it is no difference.
> To update all packages and to also get all additional changes that are
> triggered by the patches.
>
>   
Those changes are zero AFAIK now. Scripts could had been a reason, but 
now scripts are in packages too...
> However the most important thing to me is to tell in repos.d/*.conf
> wether to do package or patch updates per default on this or that
> repo, I have use cases for that.  The other one (patches and packages
> in one run) to me is less important.
>   
Again, it is just a different view on the system. The content is the same.

Duncan


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