Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (673 mails)

[Alberto Passalacqua <alberto.passalacqua@xxxxxx>]

> The Novell brands don't prevent redistribution. They only don't allow you to 
> change the product to something totally different and still call it openSUSE.

OK. But the point of the licence where this is discussed was the one at
the centre of the discussion on the "bad press" I think.

> > key point of openSUSE: offering also proprietary software ready to go on DVD
>
> I don't see this key point. I doubt someone is choosing openSUSE because of 
> that - there are (community) distribution out there who include much more 
> proprietary and other problematic stuff like encrypted DVD, all codecs, ...

I think it is one of the reasons someone, especially among new users,
decides to use openSUSE. OpenSUSE used to come ready for use, with flash
installed by default, acroread already in place (not anymore, who knows
why), java plugin working out of the box on 32/63 bit (thanks to "smart"
decisions not anymore on 64 bit) and so on.

> > If it is really necessary, a warning pop-up and a checkbox during the
> > installation process to deselect automatically all the non-OSS software
>
> This thread is IMO about being allowed to redistribute the media (complete 
> DVD 
> with all software), not about EULA of single applications you have to agree 
> when installing/using (like [until recently] when starting Mozilla Firefox).

OK. So there is a contraddiction. 
I assume the goal of having an easy redistributable DVD is to make it
easy to spread openSUSE. I don't buy the story of mirrors having
problems, because they mirror exactly the same distributions that offer
practically everything restricted.

So we want the media easier to be redistributed (as if now someone
doesn't do that already...they even sell it online) on one hand to reach
more people, but on the other hand we increase the difficulty for
newcomers to have what in previous releases was there.
Our past experience with automatically added repository (nvidia, ati,
OSS, non-OSS, updates) is not positive. Our redirector fails for example
quite dramatically at every release, preventing the successful addition
of repositories and the installation of those packages.
Moreover there are problems with that: people without network, people
with network card not configurable at installation time, and so on.

Regards,
Alberto

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