Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (673 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxx>]

Felix Möller <felix@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Hi,
>
> it seems like factory dependencies have some problems at the moment.
> Today zypper removed itself because of a missing dependency it
> seems. (without warning!) Earlier this week there was the pixman
> issue, causing Firefox any many other apps to crash.
>
> So I am wondering myself what goes into STABLE and what gets directly
> into factory (STABLE)?
>
> Currently Eclipse 3.4 is in BETA.[1] But shouldn't the core libraries
> like zypper and the X be even more tested?

In general stuff should be tested and the libzypp developers do the
following: 

* Build all packages in the Build Service
* Fix problems
* Once all build, submit all together to STABLE 

Unfortunately with the last submission this role was not followed and
zypper was not submitted. :-(

> May I ask who is testing BETA?

Nearly nobody.  We use it internally primarily to test what a package
will break if we know that the package has a risk - and move the package
From BETA to STABLE (aka FACTORY) once we know that it does not break
anything - or can submit the failing packages as well...

With pixman the maintainer was quite surprised that cairo had a
dependency on a *beta* version of pixman - if he would have known that,
it would have been broken... :-(

It's the week before beta1 and therefore people are quite stressed and
make some errors :-(

> I do not want to offend anybody, I'd just like to know how the
> separation of STABLE and BETA works...

Does that explain it?

Andreas
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