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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1 missing functionality
  • From: Will Stephenson <wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:59:44 +0200
  • Message-id: <200809092359.45110.wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 17:17:23 nordi wrote:
Will Stephenson wrote:
Implemented in trunk and planned to be backported. The trunk
implementation only has auto-hide, did you use the manual hide buttons?

Only manual hide. A constantly visible taskbar is useful if you are
jumping between apps a lot (web, mail, OpenOffice...) but it is annoying
if you spend a lot of time in one program. So I switch visibility
manually, depending on what I am currently doing.

Ok, thanks for another reasoning I can take upstream.

Unable to assign different backgrounds to virtual desktops to make them
easy to identify;

Go vote on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155150 . Currently KDE
4.2 is a way off feature freeze, so there is still time to get things
like this re- added.

Haven't used KDE4 for a while, but now I know what people mean when they
complain about essential features that are still missing. I guess I'll
give it another try when 4.2 is out.

I don't give much weight to the 'extra libraries' argument on a general
purpose desktop or laptop though. On a SSD-based netbook, sure. However
disk space and ram being what they are, the extra cruft (a few tens of
Mb) involved in installing KDE 3 and KDE 4 in parallel is no great
increase over the bloat we all have from having OpenOffice, Mozilla,
Eclipse and maybe a couple of g* apps installed.

Hopefully, the developers of said programs do not think the same. People
would be rather surprised if Eclipse required both Java 5 and Java 6 to
run and the devs said "no great increase over the bloat we all have from
having KDE...".

I'm not speaking as a KDE developer atm but as a distribution developer. As a
KDE developer I'd want to devote 100% of my time to making KDE 4 complete and
shiny, and fulfil the wildly promising footprint improvements some people
claimed about, but with my pragmatic distro hat on I have to work with what's
available to both innovate to remain relevant and keep my existing userbase's
needs fulfilled. Sometimes a bit of inefficiency/bloat is the cost of that.

Will
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