Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (673 mails)

["Larry Stotler" <larrystotler@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Rajko M. <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No. It can be 3-4 years old.
> See this.
>
> KDE3 and KDE4 running at the same time:
> ~> free
>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:       1930024    1862204      67820          0      88704     779576
> -/+ buffers/cache:     993924     936100
> Swap:      4104556        260    4104296
>
> KDE3 only:
> ~> free
>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:       1930024    1476488     453536          0      89004     779272
> -/+ buffers/cache:     608212    1321812
> Swap:      4104556        152    4104404
>
> Who is better?
> It is 64 bit, so 32 will easily fit in 256 MB.


That looks strange.  The numbers are identical, which makes no sense.
How can you run BOTH systems at the same time with the same mem usage?

> First, users are demanding better graphics, because they have it elsewhere.
> Second, it is one click in settings to turn on or off eye candies. I have some
> enabled, some not. It is still time that some of them kill desktop, but that
> is not unexpected for Factory.

Where is this at and is it only in factory?  I haven't had time to try
factory yet.

> Which is majority of computers in use anyway.
> I have older pieces, but I can't say that they are used. Sometimes to see how
> older hardware takes new OS, but that is all. After installation they
> continue to collect dust, as they do most of the time.

My 2 Thinkpads that are P3 based get daily usage.  My fastest system
is basically a re-encoder and web broswer.

> Now your memory plays with you.
> Pro version was just a bigger set of packages and anyone could download what
> was missing on normal version. The difference in price was just to cover for
> 1 extra book and more CDs in pro version.

IF you had a reliable connection.  I didn't until 2004.  I had dial up
for a long time, and I could't tie up my line that long for that.
Whenever I had both versions, I noticed that the personal had less
features and was usually slightly faster.  I dunno.  I have copies of
7.3 and 8.1 peronal(actually have 8,1 on an old laptop).

> A built in GeForce 6100, or cheap FX 5200 suffice. That is what I use.
> Some time ago I learned that $20 graphic card doesn't cut well, usually it is
> just to little RAM on card and that keeps GPU busy to redraw something that
> didn't change and could be just swapped, but $50 will the same GPU and more
> RAM will do all I need.

See, to me I could care less about spending $$ on a gpu.  Only reason
I have an X300 in my desktop is lack of onboard video and that was the
cheapest PCIe card I could find at the time.  I rarely play
games(normally PPRacer or Neverball), so I'm not into spending money
on that.

> Sure. My comments are only just that, MNSHO. :-)

That's what makes life so fun.....
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