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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1
- From: Richard <ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:37:07 -0400
- Message-id: <200809070737.07835.ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>
On Sun September 7 2008 3:18:14 am Felix Miata wrote:
Don't hold your breath... This is a direct quote from one of the KDE
developers taken directly from their buglist regarding that very bug and to me
is indicative of the whole attitude about providing the functionality we lose
in 4.x in order to gain all the new wonderous vector graphics resizeable icons
we all need instead of an ability to do useful work that we used to have.....
Quote:
EndQuote.
In one breath he says it isn't a lot of work to get the FUNCTIONALITY back
again, and in the next, he says DON'T WAIT.
Our esteemed moderator said IBM shot itself in it's d**k regarding OS/2. That
is probably true. They did it when they teamed up with M$. Now, it appears
that KDE is shooting itself in the same appendage and expecting US to tell us
where it hurts!
Richard
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On 2008/09/06 21:34 (GMT-0400) Patrick Shanahan apparently typed:
* Felix Miata <mrmazda@xxxxxx> [09-06-08 13:39]:
I can't work without hide taskbar. When I need a fullscreen screenshot
of a web browser and its content, as I often do (e.g.
https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=10781 ), there has to be a
way for me to get rid of the kicker that doesn't involve logging out
or rebooting first.
killall kicker
do your work
<alt><f2>"kicker"
that was hard!
For you. I'm working in a stable and mature GUI and expect to to do such
things with a mouse click or two without giving anything much thought, and
probably won't remember anything about Alt-F2 if and when KDE4 gets shoved
down my throat without working panel collapse.
Do you have a workaround for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152761 too?
Until (most) things like these are fixed, KDE4 is nothing more than
beta-ware. I expect beta-ware in Factory, not a purchased DVD distro release.
Don't hold your breath... This is a direct quote from one of the KDE
developers taken directly from their buglist regarding that very bug and to me
is indicative of the whole attitude about providing the functionality we lose
in 4.x in order to gain all the new wonderous vector graphics resizeable icons
we all need instead of an ability to do useful work that we used to have.....
Quote:
Robert Knight 2008-08-26 12:36:39
How much are we talking about here to fix this thing? In truth, not a lot
of work to get KDE
3.5.x functionality back again. I did plan to do this for KDE 4.1 but it
didn't happen because
I was originally hoping to introduce improved restore of sessions since I
always considered
that just restoring the program and path was almost useless. Evidently a
lot of users don't
feel the same way. But please don't wait for it to happen. The Konsole code
is fairly clean and
this would be a good job for a new developer. If you haven't worked on KDE
code before and
you'd like to make a contribution then please get in touch. Seasoned
developers are also
welcome to apply.
EndQuote.
In one breath he says it isn't a lot of work to get the FUNCTIONALITY back
again, and in the next, he says DON'T WAIT.
Our esteemed moderator said IBM shot itself in it's d**k regarding OS/2. That
is probably true. They did it when they teamed up with M$. Now, it appears
that KDE is shooting itself in the same appendage and expecting US to tell us
where it hurts!
Richard
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