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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1
- From: Gerald Pfeifer <gp@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 22:37:13 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <alpine.LSU.1.99.0809062218170.3560@xxxxxxxxx>
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Larry Stotler wrote:
The problem with waiting (and we have considered this in several cases,
and done it in some) is that there always will be something major "just a
tiny little bit too late". The Linux kernel, glibc, GNOME, KDE, Firefox,
OpenOffice, Banshee 1.0, Amarok 2.0, GCC, and the list goes on.
A major risk with waiting is that "just a tiny little bit" may gradually
evolve into "just a bit longer than just a tiny little bit" and/or at that
later point in time, there is something _else_ to wait for.
In that case we always tried to accomodate as many other changes as
possible without increasing risk on others fronts too much. As an
example, if for some reason openSUSE 11.1 starts slipping, looking
into a newer version of Firefox would be not too unlikely; looking
into a move from GCC 4.3 to GCC 4.4 would since nearly everything
depends on the compiler.
In the concrete case, looking at
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule
and
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
openSUSE 11.1 would have to slip quite a bit to allow for an update to
KDE 4.2 as opposed to one to KDE 4.1.2 or 4.1.3.
Looking into my magic sphere, I venture it'll be openSUSE 11.2 that will
bring us KDE 4.2 and GNOME 2.26 and GCC 4.4 and... As we tend to say here:
"After the release is before the release". ;-)
Gerald
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Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg)
openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex
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However, in this case since it's a major part of the system, I still
think it would be better to wait.
The problem with waiting (and we have considered this in several cases,
and done it in some) is that there always will be something major "just a
tiny little bit too late". The Linux kernel, glibc, GNOME, KDE, Firefox,
OpenOffice, Banshee 1.0, Amarok 2.0, GCC, and the list goes on.
A major risk with waiting is that "just a tiny little bit" may gradually
evolve into "just a bit longer than just a tiny little bit" and/or at that
later point in time, there is something _else_ to wait for.
Besides, what if the release date gets pushed back anyway?
In that case we always tried to accomodate as many other changes as
possible without increasing risk on others fronts too much. As an
example, if for some reason openSUSE 11.1 starts slipping, looking
into a newer version of Firefox would be not too unlikely; looking
into a move from GCC 4.3 to GCC 4.4 would since nearly everything
depends on the compiler.
In the concrete case, looking at
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule
and
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
openSUSE 11.1 would have to slip quite a bit to allow for an update to
KDE 4.2 as opposed to one to KDE 4.1.2 or 4.1.3.
Looking into my magic sphere, I venture it'll be openSUSE 11.2 that will
bring us KDE 4.2 and GNOME 2.26 and GCC 4.4 and... As we tend to say here:
"After the release is before the release". ;-)
Gerald
--
Dr. Gerald Pfeifer E gp@xxxxxxxxxx SUSE Linux Products GmbH
Director Inbound Product Mgmt T +49(911)74053-0 HRB 16746 (AG Nuremberg)
openSUSE/SUSE Linux Enterprise F +49(911)74053-483 GF: Markus Rex
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