Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (673 mails)

[Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Larry Stotler wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Kevin Dupuy <kevin.dupuy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:07 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:
> > > If we are serious about removing 3.5.x, then we need to wait for 4.2.
> > > Anything else is a bad idea and will come back to bite us badly.  Is
> > > it really neccessary to push 11.1 out and then have 4.2 be released
> > > not long after?  Delays are common in software, and no one will tink
> > > any less if that happens, and most will be more appriciative if it
> > > does.
> > > From the openSUSE Factory mailinglist on March 7th, 2008:
> > "KDE 4.1 will be released over one month after openSUSE 11.0
> > So haven´t you thought yet to release it with KDE 4.1?It would be just
> > one month later."
> >
> > The grass is always greener on the other side. Now folks are complaining
> > that openSUSE won't delay for KDE 4.2. Actually, it's kinda funny to see
> > this conversation occur over again.
>
> I wasn't able to help out with 11.0 until late, so I missed that one.
> However, in this case since it's a major part of the system, I still
> think it would be better to wait.  Besides, what if the release date

You know, a Linux distribution release is a snapshot in time of a few
thousands of FOSS projects. We just have to decide on release dates and
stick with them, because you'll always have a major part of the system
that's about to make a major release right after the release date.
If it isn't KDE, it could be GNOME, OpenOffice, X.org, GCC, the kernel,
Xen, etc etc etc...

> gets pushed back anyway?  If it gets pushed back for any other reason,
> then it would make sense to do 4.2/beta in parallel with 4.1 since the
> team seems to back port a lot of stuff anyway.  I dunno, I'm not a
> programmer, so I don't know how complex these issues are.

It's actually work to integrate a KDE release into the distribution,
it's not just triggering a build and voilà, it's there.

Furthermore, the whole point about openSUSE releases and feature freezes
is that the packages get tested by our vast community of beta testers.
If, say, the release is delayed and KDE 4.2 is released in the mean
time, and our packagers actually find the time to package 4.2 properly
to go into 11.1, it will be totally untested.
If at all, then a release of something (like KDE) must be available
before 11.1 beta 1 in order to be tested properly before 11.1 GM.

cheers
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  -o) Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  /\\ http://opensuse.org -- I took the green pill
 _\_v FOSDEM::23+24 Feb 2008, Brussels, http://fosdem.org
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