Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (462 mails)

[Druid <marcio.ferreira@xxxxxxxxx>]

>  The only criteria I see, is when KDE4 will have all the features, that are
>  missing, that were in KDE3.

Completely unrealistic target in here. If kde3 was adopted only when
it had "all the features" maybe we would be on kde2 to kde3
transition.

I must say KDE4 has a completely new feel, may take some time to get
used, but its no different from any other WM transition I have seen.
The important thing is that some basic tasks should be done (something
like open a few programs, change some properties, etc), and that's
mostly ok nowadays in all environments, even KDE4 (Im not using
myself, Im a bit in a hurry to master it and tweak the way I like it).
So basic tasks plus some stableness criteria (a bit subjective,
probably

As AJ mentioned (and I forgot),  cost of maintaining a double
environment like in 11.0 may be a medium to long time problem. Anyway,
in the past, we've seen some large version transitions in short period
of time (kernel 2.4 to 2.6, apache 1.3 to 2.0 oh that hurt a bit, OOo
1.1 to 2.X, etc), no more than one release of transition. So being
objective, the way I see it, we've had a transition release with
11.0... the question that comes in my mind is: do we need another one?
Im inclined to answer no to that question. Why? Because 11.1 will be
the base for enterprise CODE11, it will be around for a long time, its
for the best it has less maintainability constraints. KDE3 is in
maintainance mode already (just had a release few days ago of .10), so
the blood is running in KDE4, that should be clear for everyone.

KDE4 and enterprise discussion is very silly. I have yet to remember
the last time I have accessed an enterprise linux server and I
executed gnome, kde or etc... The closest thing that happens is to run
ssh -X to install oracle, or some weird GUI. If you have problems with
GUI and enterprise, you are doing it wrong, sorry to be the one to
open your eyes. Enterprise couldnt care less about GUI.

Its time for people to stop crying and use that time to research how
to get going in KDE4. If you think that's too hard, maybe you do
deserve that *other* environment SUSE still offers anyway... It was
made thinking exactly about you, people that have a hard time moving
forward and learning stuff. Oh, this last line was mean.

Now one last line: if you didnt like my email, you better start liking
it right now, right in this moment. Otherwise I will never (and I say
NEVER) buy chocolate cookies again. From any vendor, not even home
made. Not a single one. Ever. Maybe vanilla.

Marcio
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Druid
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