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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1
- From: Richard <ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:45:12 -0400
- Message-id: <200808302345.12814.ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>
On Sat August 30 2008 11:24:41 pm Druid wrote:
This thread was started by a member of a representative of Novell and included
input from Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager soliciting input
and opinion relative to the subject. It is relative to the subject if by the
openSuSE-Factory minions perpetuating a mistake that erstwhile loyal openSuSE
Linux users and fans are alienated to the point of seeking other distributions
and actively removing openSuSE from their and their clients systems. That is
what is happening because a few vociferous enthusiastic proponents of what
potentially will become a future standard are trying to ram it down the throat
of everyone. I hasten to point out that one of the goals of openSuSE Linux
is to promote Linux and attract NEW users, users that are by definition
unfamiliar with Linux, SuSE in general and most certainly with anything
remotely approaching a CLI because most of the world still uses Windoze in some
form or another and that means most NEW users of openSuSE are not Linux
literate. For the developers of KDE and those that are familiar with testing
and debugging, the current state of KDE 4.x is absolute paridise, for anyone
trying to do real work, trying to convert their mentality from Windoze to Linux
and just expect/hope that 'it just works' because if it doesn't, they have no
clue, then KDE 4.1 is an unmitigated disaster and is NOT the cutting edge of
technology, it is a dull saw blade that still needs a lot of work to be called
a cutting device of any type. The opensuse-factory list is where the
developers and managers and decision makers 'live' and pertainent opinions and
feedback relavent to a question THEY posed is most definitely ON TOPIC because
if it isn't, then the question is off topic in the first place, and the whole
mailing list borders on totally worthless, as openSuSE will be if mistakes like
4.1 are allowed to continue without checks and balance. I totally condone
continued support and development of KDE 4.x, I totally abhor ramming it down
our throats and removing features and software that is useful and relatively
complete and stable in the misguided name of 'progress'.
Richard Creighton
CSC, Inc.
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Fred A. Miller
<fmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote silly stuff:
<bla bla bla deleted>
It is not on topic, so you should care about it and not pollute the
list with silliness. Take it to opensuse-whining@xxxxxxxxxxxx
This thread was started by a member of a representative of Novell and included
input from Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager soliciting input
and opinion relative to the subject. It is relative to the subject if by the
openSuSE-Factory minions perpetuating a mistake that erstwhile loyal openSuSE
Linux users and fans are alienated to the point of seeking other distributions
and actively removing openSuSE from their and their clients systems. That is
what is happening because a few vociferous enthusiastic proponents of what
potentially will become a future standard are trying to ram it down the throat
of everyone. I hasten to point out that one of the goals of openSuSE Linux
is to promote Linux and attract NEW users, users that are by definition
unfamiliar with Linux, SuSE in general and most certainly with anything
remotely approaching a CLI because most of the world still uses Windoze in some
form or another and that means most NEW users of openSuSE are not Linux
literate. For the developers of KDE and those that are familiar with testing
and debugging, the current state of KDE 4.x is absolute paridise, for anyone
trying to do real work, trying to convert their mentality from Windoze to Linux
and just expect/hope that 'it just works' because if it doesn't, they have no
clue, then KDE 4.1 is an unmitigated disaster and is NOT the cutting edge of
technology, it is a dull saw blade that still needs a lot of work to be called
a cutting device of any type. The opensuse-factory list is where the
developers and managers and decision makers 'live' and pertainent opinions and
feedback relavent to a question THEY posed is most definitely ON TOPIC because
if it isn't, then the question is off topic in the first place, and the whole
mailing list borders on totally worthless, as openSuSE will be if mistakes like
4.1 are allowed to continue without checks and balance. I totally condone
continued support and development of KDE 4.x, I totally abhor ramming it down
our throats and removing features and software that is useful and relatively
complete and stable in the misguided name of 'progress'.
Richard Creighton
CSC, Inc.
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