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Re: [opensuse-factory] The KDE way for openSUSE 11.1
- From: Christoph Thiel <cthiel@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:06:11 -0400
- Message-id: <20080829180611.GB28713@xxxxxxx>
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 06:53:30PM +0100, Carlos Goncalves wrote:
Do you have a list of packages that you think could be left out? ;) I'm
definitely interested in suggestions here!
Best,
Christoph
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Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development
SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
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On Friday 29 August 2008 16:55:07 Michael Loeffler wrote:
b) We may add again both KDEs to the DVD
Between a) and b) I vote b). Main reasons are:
- people fear loosing some of their vital data during automatic (if
available)
KDE3->KDE4 configs upgrade proccess (eg: PIM data (emails, contacts, todos,
etc)). Even if they don't fear it's still risky doing that yet, as they could
then blame openSUSE for that (stupid I know but it will happens!)
- KDE4 just might be not ready for them (eg: missing features)
- annoying bugs which won't be fixed before <KDE4.2 (eg: systray background
not
transparent, kpowersave not yet ported to KDE4 leading to some bugs)
- users might be interested in testing KDE4 but still have KDE3 around
(offline)
Cons:
- space limitations on DVD may prevent this option
- maintenance and integration of 2 KDE desktops needed which the internal
KDE team hardly can accomplish
- we're backing a desktop which anyway won't receive much attention from
upstream anymore
- confusion - which KDE should I choose
I do understand these cons, and if openSUSE decides not going for b) than
c) Release an official or non-official KDE3 CD
- official : same updates policy as openSUSE 11.0
- non-official: community supported, updates only via buildservice (if any)
Pros:
- openSUSE provides KDE3
- less "trash" (packages) installed by default
Do you have a list of packages that you think could be left out? ;) I'm
definitely interested in suggestions here!
Best,
Christoph
- save users and mirrors internet bandwidth (CD < DVD, right?!)
- more free space on DVD for additional packages
Cons:
- more storage space (to be decided if should be hosted on Novell servers ->
download.o.o -> openSUSE mirrors)
- if officially supported, will require maintenance
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Regards,
Carlos Goncalves
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