Hi, as discussed in a former project meeting we should discuss how we handle KDE in openSUSE 11.1. To avoid any misunderstanding we will offer on the DVD still KDE and Gnome. It just the question which or how many KDE's ;-) The proposal of the internal team (beineri, michl, cthiel, aj, klaas, mlasars, zonker) is trying to make KDE 4.1 as good as possible and maintain our reputation to offer the best integrated KDE. Top 3 reasons for that: - KDE 4.1 is ready for prime time - clear decision and move to the future - limited ressources KDE 4.1 is released and - no doubt - much better than 4.0. But there are still discussions that KDE 4.1 lacks some capabilities KDE 3.5.x had. If you have any issue with KDE 4.1 on openSUSE please report a bug to drive attention on it and patches are also welcome ;-) What can/should we do? a) Delivery of KDE 4.1 on media as our default KDE desktop, add some 3.5.x applications where necessary, older KDE through online repos Pros: - clear position and direction to the future - KDE 4.1 ready for the mayority of users - focus of efforts to KDE 4.1 Cons: - some users will lack certain features or habits b) We may add again both KDEs to the DVD Pros: we offer choice and may make everybody happy Cons: - space limitations on DVD may prevent this option - maintenance and integration of 2 KDE desktops needed which the internal KDE team hardly can accomplish - we're backing a desktop which anyway won't receive much attention from upstream anymore - confusion - which KDE should I choose Please bring up your opinion so that we're doing the right thing for openSUSE 11.1 Best M -- Michael Löffler, Product Management Email: michl@suse.de Phone: +49 911 74053-376 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org