Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (475 mails)

["Alexey Eremenko" <al4321@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Pascal Bleser
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> Posting from Alexey's "Requesting to create a top level project
> "Contrib"" post:
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> Pascal Bleser wrote:
> > Either you want a coordinated effort with several contributors or you
> > just rush something badly thought out on your own.
> > If you want the former, then we're not done discussing it.
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> For example, I have some doubts about your list of candidates on the
> wiki page [1]. To be more specific, dynagen/dynamips? Who the hell cares
> about those ? You and 5 other people ? Does that make it a good
> candidate for being in the contrib repository ? (playing devil's
> advocate here)
>
> [1]http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/packages

Well, those 2 specific packages are needed by me, but I agree, that
those may be poor candidates, at least for first stage.

I have removed them from candidates list for now.

> As I replied in your above mentioned post, if you/we want this to be a
> coordinated effort of several and not a one-man-show of Alexey,
> - - we need a sufficient number of good packagers, not just 2 or 3
> - - we need to think about, discuss, define the release cycle (freezing,
> announcing, etc...)
> - - the list of candidates shouldn't be "what Alexey needs right now"
Everyone is free to add candidate packages to the list.

About release cycle:
"Contrib" will be in sync with Factory release cycles. It will
BETA-test during openSUSE 11.1 BETA cycle, together with it

See policy:
http://www.opensuse.org/Contrib

> e.g.: what do we think is an appropriate size for the repository to be ?
> - - just shove anything into it and possibly end up with a huge repository;
> - - keep it small and well tested
> ?
Ideally it should be both reasonably stable and have large number of packages.

Specific packages are to be reviewed on case-by-case basis.

> Do we want to have a
> contrib-(staging|beta|unstable|experimental|testing) repository where
> packages have to undergo some reported tests before they end up in contrib ?

Generally I prefer to keep unstable/experimental stuff either upstream
or in user's OBS, not in contrib. After it becomes stable it may
become integrated.
This will allow us to stay in focus. (not waste energy to maintain too
many repos)

Maybe later on we will revisit the idea, and add separation. (stable/unstable)

But if anyone thinks we need unstable repository now, let discuss it.

> We should also at least think grossly about a process to request
> packages for the contrib repository (e.g. bugzilla).

Yes, bugzilla integration is very important indeed.

I have added that this topic is to be discussed to the project's home page wiki.

> I'm really not a process type of guy, but a bare minimum should be
> written down on the wiki before we start, and if we want people
> (packagers and testers) to join the effort, they have to know exactly
> what they (are going to|would) participate in.
Yes, wiki page is the first thing, that is done.
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib/

Thanks-in-advance,
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-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
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