Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (475 mails)

[Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@xxxxxxxxx>]

Søndag 10 august 2008 16:01:18 skrev Druid:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Christian Boltz <opensuse@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> > on Sonntag, 10. August 2008, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> > > It _is_ a problem. I always end up in having 20 repositories added to
> > > my package manager, having lots of updates installed just because I
> > > want to have a few programs installed and up to date. And after 9
> > > month of usage, I end up in a reinstallation for $NEXT_RELEASE
> > > instead of updating because it's less work for me.
> >
> > I have currently 14 repos, and always install new versions as update.
> > Yes, sometimes there are some conflicts to solve, but it takes much
> > less time than restoring all config changes etc. I did.
>
> You are all assuming that OSS and the other repos are exactly the same
> thing. It is not. OSS is the release repo, its frozen, it was tested
> (was it? I hope so), its a release, should have minimum release
> quality. Its what people should be using. The other repos are random
> stuff, non tested, use at your own risk, may break your computer, may
> eat you.
>
> So yes, there is a big difference between release and stuff in buld
> service. And no, putting everything together in big repo sounds like a
> terrible idea.
>
> I dont have 14 repos. I have only the classic oss+packman+updates
> repos, and a couple of RPMs that came from buildservice or customs,
> which is what people more or less should stick to, if you ask me. If
> not, there is no purpose of having a release, we could just be using
> factory and complaining about brokenness on continuous upgrading,
> which is what happens in debian anyway...
>
> The repos are separated for a reason.

Just putting everything together in one repo would definitely be a bad idea.

But maybe creating some big extra/contrib/community repo that follows the 
openSUSE release cycle, and is then frozen at release time wouldn't be a bad 
idea. It shouldn't be a packager playground, and probably shouldn't have 
packages that are prone to security issues either though. Should be frozen and 
somewhat tested stuff - the purpose being to provide _more_ packages, not 
providing latest. 

Bleeding edge would be available on other smaller dedicated BS repos for 
experts and adventurous people.

Also I think grouping existing BS projects more - and cleaning dublicate and 
obsolete projects would alleviate many of these complaints about the current 
BS situation.
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