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Re: [opensuse-factory] if the community contributed?
- From: Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:41:00 +0200
- Message-id: <g7kkrc$kr1$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I think that's a pretty good summing up.
I chose my wording badly - there's no doubt in my mind that openSUSE is
an open source project.
I just have some doubts are about how open the management is - YaST is a
key element of openSUSE, but in my view, it's not really an open source
community driven project as are e.g. apache and others. YaST is driven
by Novell/SUSE, and decisions to drop or include features appear to be
less open and not very community driven?
I don't want to flog a dead horse, and I'm also perfectly happy with the
compromise we found, but the deprecation of JFS and now more recently
LILO were clearly Novell decisions, not community decisions.
I think perhaps the case of JFS was a good start - it's still part of
YaST, yet clearly marked as unsupported.
Why not do the same with e.g. LILO ? That way you leave the door open
for someone to step in and take over the support. And maybe even submit
a patch or two.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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Let's look how other open source projects basically work (very
simplified):
The open source developers work on those areas that they consider
critical and are interesting for them to work on. They do look at bug
reports, feature requests etc and decide what's in their view is best
for the project. Most look forward in a positive way to new
developers and embrace them: They help them to get into the project,
guide them with their first contribution, review and accept their
patches - or explain why the patch is either of bad quality or going
in a direction that the project is not going.
I think that's a pretty good summing up.
YaST is an open source project! Discussions and repositories are
public, and the YaST team is a friendly crowd that embrace new members
that want to contribute to YaST
I chose my wording badly - there's no doubt in my mind that openSUSE is
an open source project.
I just have some doubts are about how open the management is - YaST is a
key element of openSUSE, but in my view, it's not really an open source
community driven project as are e.g. apache and others. YaST is driven
by Novell/SUSE, and decisions to drop or include features appear to be
less open and not very community driven?
I don't want to flog a dead horse, and I'm also perfectly happy with the
compromise we found, but the deprecation of JFS and now more recently
LILO were clearly Novell decisions, not community decisions.
I think perhaps the case of JFS was a good start - it's still part of
YaST, yet clearly marked as unsupported.
Why not do the same with e.g. LILO ? That way you leave the door open
for someone to step in and take over the support. And maybe even submit
a patch or two.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
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