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Re: [opensuse-factory] update-mirrors out of sync - what about bittorent for everything?
- From: Christian Boltz <opensuse@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:35:06 +0200
- Message-id: <200807221335.07282@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hello,
on Montag, 21. Juli 2008, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, that's a usecase where p2p fits perfectly:
- _all_ machines in the network need (and seed) the same file
- all machines have 100 MBit upload connections in the intranet
- of course some hundred seeders are faster than a singe server, which
is limited by hard disk or (with enough RAM) network interface
performance
- assuming the BitTorrent client is clever enough, it can download the
files from its direct neigborhood and not from the other "end" of the
network
Unfortunately the situation in the internet differs:
- unfortunately ;-) must people still run the other[tm] operating
system, so the percentage of people who need and seed the openSUSE
updates would be much lower
- internet connection of most people is worse than in an intranet.
Especially, the upload bandwith is usually quite small.
This doesn't mean that BitTorrent is useless (I'm seeding the 11.0 KDE
CD - 33 GB uploaded so far ;-) - but the overhead doesn't make it very
useful for small files IMHO.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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on Montag, 21. Juli 2008, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2008-07-21 at 17:09 +0200, Peter Poeml wrote:
1) P2P is only suitable for large files; but many files are tiny.
Its overhead and complexity makes it unattractive for small
files. P2P's success is largely based on its ability to escape
legal control.
I read a study of some European university that contradicted this.
They experimentally used bittorrent in the intranet to deploy
software updates to the entire intranet (thousands of computer
updating (windows?) at the same time, and they discovered that it was
way faster than having some dedicated update servers in the same
intranet. They found a legal use for it that was better that the
normally used solution.
Yes, that's a usecase where p2p fits perfectly:
- _all_ machines in the network need (and seed) the same file
- all machines have 100 MBit upload connections in the intranet
- of course some hundred seeders are faster than a singe server, which
is limited by hard disk or (with enough RAM) network interface
performance
- assuming the BitTorrent client is clever enough, it can download the
files from its direct neigborhood and not from the other "end" of the
network
Unfortunately the situation in the internet differs:
- unfortunately ;-) must people still run the other[tm] operating
system, so the percentage of people who need and seed the openSUSE
updates would be much lower
- internet connection of most people is worse than in an intranet.
Especially, the upload bandwith is usually quite small.
This doesn't mean that BitTorrent is useless (I'm seeding the 11.0 KDE
CD - 33 GB uploaded so far ;-) - but the overhead doesn't make it very
useful for small files IMHO.
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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had your cup of coffee! Would you like your KDE to prepare one for you?"
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