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Re: [opensuse-factory] Suspend function in openSUSE 10.3 and 11.0
- From: "Mark Gray" <mark.t.gray@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 14:37:49 -0400
- Message-id: <d48b2a4f0806061137h56418962h5cedef97f54365f9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Carlos E. R.
<robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think the big problem Linux faces getting ACPI to work is that every
DSDT appears to be different, and to have different bugs. I have
three computers new enough to have fully functional ACPI under
Win-XP[1], but none of them work correctly with Linux. (One of them
used to sort of work back with SuSE 7.*, or 8.* [2] but stopped
working as Linux ACPI got more particular about the quality of the
DSDT it had to work with). Decompiling, then recompiling their DSDT's
without major corrections produces large numbers of errors and
warnings (different for all three). What is needed more than hundreds
of bugzilla filings about broken ACPI, is a self-help mailing list or
Wiki for debugging DSDT's, because the openSUSE ACPI team's attempt to
development a cure for all computers ACPI problems is rather futile at
this point.
[1] I do _not_ use Win-XP, and "fully functional" is defined here as
meaning "every tenth hibernation or so, the computer fails to come
back to life".
[2] "Sort of work": several times while powering off, Linux sent the
bios into an illegal state which required a call to the manufacturer's
help line in order to learn a technique to perform a special reset
which requires long flexible fingers on one hand, and extreme
dexterity with the other. I also suspect that Linux fried the battery
(but it continues to work well on AC power, so that doesn't bother me
too much.)
PS: I only really require that Linux be able to use ACPI to power off
my computers, which it does quite well. But I am slightly worried
about using Linux on one of the computers because Linux cannot read
the temperature, and the fan stopped going into high speed mode around
openSUSE-10.1. I noticed several ACPI fan bugs on bugzilla, and not
wishing to file a duplicate, joined in -- the bugs immediately went
totally silent, and haven't had a new posting since! (I am not
complaining mind you, just adding this in to emphasize how overworked
the ACPI people are.)
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<robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The Thursday 2008-06-05 at 18:43 -0700, Andreas wrote:
And did you report it on bugzilla?
Nope. I just wouldn't know how to get what kind of information to file a
substantiated bug report in this case.
They should tell you what they need.
I think the big problem Linux faces getting ACPI to work is that every
DSDT appears to be different, and to have different bugs. I have
three computers new enough to have fully functional ACPI under
Win-XP[1], but none of them work correctly with Linux. (One of them
used to sort of work back with SuSE 7.*, or 8.* [2] but stopped
working as Linux ACPI got more particular about the quality of the
DSDT it had to work with). Decompiling, then recompiling their DSDT's
without major corrections produces large numbers of errors and
warnings (different for all three). What is needed more than hundreds
of bugzilla filings about broken ACPI, is a self-help mailing list or
Wiki for debugging DSDT's, because the openSUSE ACPI team's attempt to
development a cure for all computers ACPI problems is rather futile at
this point.
[1] I do _not_ use Win-XP, and "fully functional" is defined here as
meaning "every tenth hibernation or so, the computer fails to come
back to life".
[2] "Sort of work": several times while powering off, Linux sent the
bios into an illegal state which required a call to the manufacturer's
help line in order to learn a technique to perform a special reset
which requires long flexible fingers on one hand, and extreme
dexterity with the other. I also suspect that Linux fried the battery
(but it continues to work well on AC power, so that doesn't bother me
too much.)
PS: I only really require that Linux be able to use ACPI to power off
my computers, which it does quite well. But I am slightly worried
about using Linux on one of the computers because Linux cannot read
the temperature, and the fan stopped going into high speed mode around
openSUSE-10.1. I noticed several ACPI fan bugs on bugzilla, and not
wishing to file a duplicate, joined in -- the bugs immediately went
totally silent, and haven't had a new posting since! (I am not
complaining mind you, just adding this in to emphasize how overworked
the ACPI people are.)
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