Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (842 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxx>]

"Larry Stotler" <larrystotler@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Here's a list of some of the frustration I experienced trying to install RC1:
>
> Unselecting the yast-fingerprint reader deselected almost all of
> YaST!(qt, networking, etc) WTF????  Sorry, but that's ridiculous.  I
> am constantly frustrated by all of these hardware dependencies that I
> DON'T have and should have to install:

You broke the YaST pattern.

> Bluetooth
> iPod
> Fingerprint?  Like my 1999 Thinkpad 390X has that.
> irda - I have NEVER used this and it's bad to even install it.  I've
> seen people's laptops get wiped from windows because they didn't know
> that their infrared was active.  When i deselect this, it says it
> can't install laptop utils.  WHY???  Why is this a dependency?  Why is
> ANY hardware a dependency.

The default is not your 390X but the patterns should be made in a way
that you can deselect anything easily.  Please do read about patterns in
the wiki and file detailed bugreports,

> Some of us don't have stuff like ISDN, Firewire, USB - yes, my
> Wallstreet powerbook doesn't even have USB so WHY should I have to
> install utilities to support USB?  Granted, if I did get a cardbus USB
> card I would need it so I can kinda understand USB, but the rest?
> I've never even owned a firewire device.  or an ISDN modem.
>
> The default install has TV apps?  How about a popup that says - if you
> want to install your specific hardware, click here and select what you
> have.

We do this already for the hardware drivers, so you only get the
kernel-packages you need...

> Sorry to rant, but I've complained about this since 10.0 was in beta.
> While hard drives are a lot bigger now, it's irriating to have to
> waste all this space on stuff I don't have, don't use and/or don't
> need.
>
> I could go on and on, but I'm done for now.  I stick with openSUSE
> because I have used SuSE since v5.3, and no other distro has anything
> like YaST for configuration and I've always liked the selection that
> openSUSE offers.  But while I not only run Linux on my Dual Core
> Celeron(overclocked 100%), I also run it on a 500Mhz P3 and a 266Mhz
> G3 among other older hardware.  Having the same distro across
> platforms is such a great thing.
>
> Sorry if I am asking too much.  It's definately gotten better, but it
> still has a ways to go.

Please create separate bugreports with details,

Andreas
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