Am Sonntag, 27. April 2008 schrieb Vahis:
The new installer defaults feel even more strange than the old ones.
In the old ones there was automatic login as default which I never accepted. I got used to remove automatic login as well as turn on receiving root mail.
Now the new defaults go even further towards the other OS. If there must be automatic login as default, so be it, I can live with that But why is the user password also the sysadmin pw as default?
I can live with that, too, but is this a good thing really? Is this feature one of those "good things" that the other OS is said to have?
Not sure what you're talking about, but the reason is simple: it's easier for the average user to remember _one_ cryptographically strong password than two. I meant what I wrote. I'm used to have strong user passwords and I'm also used to have strong root passwords. I keep talking about that to everybody. I also keep teaching them how
Stephan Kulow wrote: they can easily remember even the strongest passwords. I was just wondering why this is (IMHO) being weakened. Strong passwords for users and root being _the_ ultimate_ allmighty_ and therefore as well protected as possible is how I think. It's my opinion, that's all. You have answered my wonderings and I'm accepting your reasoning.
So what we've seen is that people take either one very weak password for either root or user (both being bad with us having ssh on by default - Having ssh on is good.
which the majority of this list refused to change) or used the same password for both.
And we want to strengthen the message: the better way is to have one _GOOD_ password in the average case openSUSE is installed - on people's home machines. Two is even better :) For servers and company work stations this might be very different and there is the checkbox to easily disable it and enter a separate root password (most often already defined by team guidelines).
Agreed.
If you see a good reason to force the average home user to remember two passwords let me know. I don't know of any.
I see no reason to force anybody to do anything. I'll keep my routines, the new users learn their own :)
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