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Re: [opensuse-factory] User and root defaults
- From: Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:05:29 +1000
- Message-id: <48144FE9.3000602@xxxxxxxxxx>
Stephan Kulow wrote:
You have "seen" all this!? You have looked inside my system, and other users' systems, to come this conclusion?!
You are implying that you have been spying inside our systems to know what passwords we use as root and user?
Oh, PU-LEEZE, Stephan don't come up with a wimpish and weak excuse for coming up with a reason for having a single password for a user and root!
SuSE *always* ensured that the pwd for user was different to the user's pwd.
Your explanation for the change is totally inane -- sorry to be blunt, but it is assinine!
It may be acceptable for someone using MS rubbish but it is not OK for someone installing and about to use a Linux OS.
(Sacrebleu! Are you people really getting brainwashed through your association with MS?!)
Ciao.
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Am Sonntag, 27. April 2008 schrieb Vahis:
The new installer defaults feel even more strange than the old ones.
In the old ones there was automatic login as default which I never
accepted. I got used to remove automatic login as well as turn on receiving
root mail.
Now the new defaults go even further towards the other OS.
If there must be automatic login as default, so be it, I can live with that
But why is the user password also the sysadmin pw as default?
I can live with that, too, but is this a good thing really?
Is this feature one of those "good things" that the other OS is said to
have?
Not sure what you're talking about, but the reason is simple: it's easier
for the average user to remember _one_ cryptographically strong password
than two. So what we've seen is that people take either one very weak password
for either root or user (both being bad with us having ssh on by default - which the majority of this list refused to change) or used the same password
for both.
You have "seen" all this!? You have looked inside my system, and other users' systems, to come this conclusion?!
You are implying that you have been spying inside our systems to know what passwords we use as root and user?
And we want to strengthen the message: the better way is to have one _GOOD_
password in the average case openSUSE is installed - on people's home machines.
Oh, PU-LEEZE, Stephan don't come up with a wimpish and weak excuse for coming up with a reason for having a single password for a user and root!
SuSE *always* ensured that the pwd for user was different to the user's pwd.
Your explanation for the change is totally inane -- sorry to be blunt, but it is assinine!
It may be acceptable for someone using MS rubbish but it is not OK for someone installing and about to use a Linux OS.
(Sacrebleu! Are you people really getting brainwashed through your association with MS?!)
Ciao.
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If you want to know what a man is like, take a look at how he treats his
inferiors not his equals.
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