Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (904 mails)

[Michael Loeffler <michl@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday 24 April 2008, Martin Schlander wrote:
> Torsdag den 24. April 2008 18:24:50 skrev Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier:
> > >  I can't see a "BEST" way and doubt there is one that will meet
> > > everyone's idea of what best is.
> >
> > True, but we can pick a way that is most intuitive to most users. My
> > belief is that when you offer a user a set of choices that are not
> > incompatible, they should be able to select more than one choice at
> > that stage. I think it's a bit counterintuitive and slightly
> > frustrating when doing the install if you are only allowed to choose
> > one at that time.
>
> Imo only geeks will want to install more than one DE. Selecting a pattern
> or two for installation later on shouldn't be a problem for them.
>
> Using checkboxes introduces the risk that people install 2-3 DEs
> by "accident", wasting substantial diskspace and having cluttered menus and
> generally messy systems etc.
+1
- A geek doesn't have a problem to find his/her way. 
- New users often informed themself through friends or a Linux magazine or 
might have read a review about the distro and know at least there are several 
desktops and have enough information to choose. 
- Newbie with no information we can't help as desktop is new to him/her and a 
decision even based on no information is needed. BUT what ever choosen this 
newbie will be able to come along with either dekstops as both are very 
usable.

As long as we ship more desktops on one media there is no perfect solution. 
I'd leave it as is in coolos proposal: 
https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=209654
M
> It also has implications for other things. We use "automatic login" as the
> default. So users would have to figure out how to log out to get to their
> display manager and select different sessions. Seriously, many fairly
> experienced users have never seen k/gdm because of the autologin default.
>
> I support keeping the radio buttons. Installing several DEs is not
> something to encourage imho.
>
> With patterns it's easy enough to do either during installation or later
> for the few users that want/need it.
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