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Re: [opensuse-factory] Small usability comment on YaST2 installer
- From: Volker Kuhlmann <list0570@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:00:14 +1200
- Message-id: <20080413110014.GA11819@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue 08 Apr 2008 22:12:25 NZST +1200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
I've been using suse for almost 10 years now, and the only times I
didn't need to enter the expert partitioning to do everything by hand
was when installing on a completely blank disk when the partitioning
didn't really matter. I.e. almost never. For the cases
1) Leave an existing Other OS untouched, use the remaining unused
partitions.
2) Leave an existing Linux 1 untouched but install in whatever way over
Linux 2, with or without modifying the partition table.
3) Leave everything untouched, but install into 1 existing partition and
reuse an existing swap partition. Do NOT modify the partition table.
the proposal was always to smash the disk and therefore no good. I gave
up on this myself years ago, but if we're discussing how to make this
more user-friendly, my suggestion would be to make partitioning
suggestions aligned with *what the user wants to do*, perhaps aided by a
modicum of intelligence, and not centered around a graphical fdisk.
That is, have a short list of 3-5 different use cases like
* Keep OtherOS, install into a non-otherOS partition(s), either with or
without smashing up the remaining partition(s). This should be default
if an ntfs partition is found early on the disk.
* Install into existing Linux partitions, do not alter partition sizes.
A simple tabular assignment of partitions to filesystem locations,
mostly / and swap, perhaps /usr/local, without the whole fdisk shebang
would benefit those with less experience as well as me when I have to
talk partition assignments over the phone.
* Install into partition to be specified, use existing swap partition,
do not alter partition sizes, create boot entries for all other OSes
found (competition ones or not).
* Ask which partitions to keep, treat all others as blank.
* Treat whole disk as blank. This should be default if disk is in fact
blank.
Volker
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The partition proposal was a bit weird... he had a 40GB disk, 20GB
filled with windows.. openSUSE suggested to delete windows and use the
whole disk... of course *I* would agree to this.. he was not really
pleased.
I've been using suse for almost 10 years now, and the only times I
didn't need to enter the expert partitioning to do everything by hand
was when installing on a completely blank disk when the partitioning
didn't really matter. I.e. almost never. For the cases
1) Leave an existing Other OS untouched, use the remaining unused
partitions.
2) Leave an existing Linux 1 untouched but install in whatever way over
Linux 2, with or without modifying the partition table.
3) Leave everything untouched, but install into 1 existing partition and
reuse an existing swap partition. Do NOT modify the partition table.
the proposal was always to smash the disk and therefore no good. I gave
up on this myself years ago, but if we're discussing how to make this
more user-friendly, my suggestion would be to make partitioning
suggestions aligned with *what the user wants to do*, perhaps aided by a
modicum of intelligence, and not centered around a graphical fdisk.
That is, have a short list of 3-5 different use cases like
* Keep OtherOS, install into a non-otherOS partition(s), either with or
without smashing up the remaining partition(s). This should be default
if an ntfs partition is found early on the disk.
* Install into existing Linux partitions, do not alter partition sizes.
A simple tabular assignment of partitions to filesystem locations,
mostly / and swap, perhaps /usr/local, without the whole fdisk shebang
would benefit those with less experience as well as me when I have to
talk partition assignments over the phone.
* Install into partition to be specified, use existing swap partition,
do not alter partition sizes, create boot entries for all other OSes
found (competition ones or not).
* Ask which partitions to keep, treat all others as blank.
* Treat whole disk as blank. This should be default if disk is in fact
blank.
Volker
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