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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Fwd: [opensuse-offtopic] Some things forthe SUSE team to pay attention to!]
- From: "Benji Weber" <benji@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:44:37 +0100
- Message-id: <d6b310ce0804080344y386ceb0ev3fe3d0b1ef4dd8ad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 08/04/2008, Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The conflict messages and suggestions are much better in Factory.
Suggestions such as
http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/b/110_conflict.png
are much easier to understand than before, ignoring the confusing use
of "uninstallable" to mean "not installable".
Still, would it not be better to pre-select the resolution that is
likely to be the best one? Leaving the option to change it. e.g.
vendor change of a dependency is usually better than not fulfilling a
user's request.
I have not checked whether the vendor change question is still handled
as a conflict, as there are not any packman packages available yet for
11.0. I didn't really like this behaviour. While Vendor-Sticky is good
at preventing system breakage when users blindly upgrade all packages,
also enforcing it when solving dependencies for manual user selections
is not good in my opinion. In 10.3, if a user selects libxine from
packman, he/she will get conflicts because of the vendor change of
dependencies of xine. This should not happen in my opinion, by
selecting a packman package he/she has decided to change vendor of
that package /and all its dependencies/.
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Benjamin Weber
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Sorry Clayton, but this is opensuse-_factory_ - so I'm interested in feedback
on latest development only. And I want to know concrete error messages of
specific problems, where $smart handles this more user friendly.
The conflict messages and suggestions are much better in Factory.
Suggestions such as
http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/b/110_conflict.png
are much easier to understand than before, ignoring the confusing use
of "uninstallable" to mean "not installable".
Still, would it not be better to pre-select the resolution that is
likely to be the best one? Leaving the option to change it. e.g.
vendor change of a dependency is usually better than not fulfilling a
user's request.
I have not checked whether the vendor change question is still handled
as a conflict, as there are not any packman packages available yet for
11.0. I didn't really like this behaviour. While Vendor-Sticky is good
at preventing system breakage when users blindly upgrade all packages,
also enforcing it when solving dependencies for manual user selections
is not good in my opinion. In 10.3, if a user selects libxine from
packman, he/she will get conflicts because of the vendor change of
dependencies of xine. This should not happen in my opinion, by
selecting a packman package he/she has decided to change vendor of
that package /and all its dependencies/.
--
Benjamin Weber
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Benjamin Weber
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