Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (904 mails)

[Volker Kuhlmann <list0570@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun 06 Apr 2008 20:02:13 NZST +1200, Basil Chupin wrote:

Not sure whether I should reply to your inflammatory email.

> Eh, sorry, but there is a link on the site on how to install all the 
> "naughty bits" to be able to view/copy DVDs and whatever.

The complaint was to make this a 1-click install.

> >  because they're already being sued enough by
> > jerks like sco.
>
> Oh, please!
>
> Keep up with the latest developments.

Novell spent millions on that lawsuit and sco has yet to cough up for
any of it.

> Why is it necessary to provide examples you require?

You (or someone else, it doesn't matter) said ubuntu does a lot of nice
things which there are often equivalents for on suse, but not easily
usable. You gave one example of installing codecs. I asked you to give
some more of those "lot of nice things" as that might help make suse
better.

> Why should anyone show "examples where <insert-name-of-a-Linux-distro> is 
> easier to use"?

Because it's always good to look over the fence and maraude. That's how
open source works.

> Having said all this, one has to remember that openSUSE is made available 
> for us, the punters, to try out and find all the bugs and crap so that 
> Novell can fix these bugs/crap before finalising their next version of the 
> commercial (ie $$$) SLE; and SLE would not have DVD viewing or CD playing 
> on its list of "must have" features.

No difference to e.g. Fedora. And Shuttleworth was complaining how much
money all this (k)ubuntu costs him and that he needs to find some
business customers to pay for some of it. I still see no difference -
all those ubuntu users/developers are doing the work for him too. And
I'm quite happy to help with the distribution I'm using, because I'm
still getting more than I pay for it.

> On the other hand, I feel that 'ubuntu and some others are actually aiming 
> at doing just that: replacing Windows as the OS on mum's and dad's 
> computers.

They're better at advertising. Free beer, oops CDs, always helps. Is
their engineering really that much better? What about 64bit? Examples
would help your argumentation...

> When Novell give back SuSE back to the people who started SuSE then we will 
> get somewhere.

Very shallow. And off topic here.

Volker

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