Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (626 mails)

[Hans Witvliet <hwit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 10:01 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le mardi 11 mars 2008, à 22:22 +0100, Hans Witvliet a écrit :
> > In that case, i would opt for an trinary question at the very beginning:
> > a) Best guess (feeling lucky, like google)
> > b) Skip all those questions that will get the "default" answer
> >  Like discussed at Fosdem
>
> Hrm, what are the differences between a and b?
>
> > c) Present the user all of those detailed questions, for the die-hards
>
> IMHO, it's better to not have an expert mode in the same installer as
> lots of users will think they are expert while they're not and will get
> lost. So I'd provide two sets of CD/DVD: desktop install and standard
> install. But I can understand people disagreeing on this, so... :-)
>
> Vincent
Hi Vincent,

Difference between A and B is, The first one does result in configuring
a particular item (write mbr, use pwd instead of ldap, configure first
network card with dhcp, run-level 5). 

While the second one just skips it, and leaves the expicit configuring
upto the user/afministrator untill the moment he needs it and knows how
to give a sensible answer to the questions. No printers, no scanners, no
BT or irda....


The "C" option is rather sensitive, hope i don't start war on it.
It gives the user to ultimate choise what to install/configure or what
not. Yes, one can allways remove things afterwards. But by then you
wasted time and diskspace (that my be scarce). I don't want to remove
things i didn't want in the first place.

This last line i had to repeat over and over again to the sales man last
week when i had to buy another system, that came pre-loaded with
Vista.... (yes i know that the removal of vista is the best thing you
can do with it ;-)



How about a slide-bar named "ease of installation 1..10"
If it rates "super easy for the beginning user"
then just one question: Install yes/no. If affirmative, just install a
default KDE-desktop, GMT, English. No questions asked. period. Just like
a live-dvd.

If it rates a little bit more advanced, the user gets *some* more
questions, like kde/gnome, language, time-zone


If it rates certified admin, he gets ALL the nice questions, like lvm,
raid, wifi-protection, sshd-options, all those nice mail possibilities,
ldap, kerberos ....

To sum it up:
Newbies are not troubled by questions they can not answer, While more
advanced users have the freedom they can handle.

And the user themselves decide what to do, no-one else.

Hans
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