Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (626 mails)

[Hans Witvliet <hwit@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 14:14 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le lundi 10 mars 2008 à 13:52 +0100, Felix-Nicolai Müller a écrit :
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> > Stephan Kulow schrieb:
> > | No, we do not take way the control, we only moving the "I don't want the
> > | default printer config" step behind the end of installation. And while
> > | I agree, that openSUSE's current users may be perfectly fine with the
> > | installation workflow of their currently installed system, because they
> > | fortunately do not have to go through it again.
> > |
> > | But we want new users. Users that may so far have rejected using openSUSE
> > | because they failed to install it.
> > |
> > | Greetings, Stephan
> >
> > Moving those steps after the installation will lead to exactly what I
> > complained about with my windows example in my last mail. If this step
> > is supposed to be after the installation there has to be a questionnaire
> > the user has to answer just like the one during installation in 10.3 .
> > If this questionnaire is not shown, users will have to click themselves
> > through yast. This will be especially confusing for the new users, as
> > they have to ask themselves why their printer, soundcard, whatever
> > doesn't work. Having everything work after installation is the beautiful
> > thing about openSUSE. Even worth, especially those new users won't even
> > know what to do in yast, which will confuse them even more.
>
> Wouldn't it be even better if the printer/soundcard/etc. just works,
> without any configuration?
>
> I know that it's sometimes not possible, and we have to handle this
> case. But keep in mind that for some people (and hopefully, with the
> good hardware support that we have, for most people), it's the case and
> it just works. Should we "annoy" these people with extra steps?
>
> The solution could be to have an easy-to-find
> second-stage-installation-like wizard in yast for people who still needs
> to manually configure this kind of stuff after the installation. For
> example, the first time you log in, you could have some notifications
> saying "If some hardware was not properly configured, you can manually
> configure by clicking this button."
> [that's just a proposal, I'm sure someone can come up with something
> even better to properly integrate this process after the installation]
>
> Vincent

In that case, i would opt for an trinary question at the very beginning:
a) Best guess (feeling lucky, like google)
b) Skip all those questions that will get the "default" answer
 Like discussed at Fosdem
c) Present the user all of those detailed questions, for the die-hards

This would everybody happy, not?

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