Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (626 mails)

[Lukas Ocilka <lukas.ocilka@xxxxxxx>]

Stephan Kulow napsal(a):
> Am Montag 10 März 2008 schrieb Felix-Nicolai Müller:
> > In my eyes, this is a typical example of taking away the control from
> > the user and copying Ubuntu. openSUSE has got a userbase because it is
> > openSUSE where people have a choice. If this userbase wanted something
> > else, they would probably use a different distro that makes it even
> > simpler than it is not on factory.
> No, we do not take way the control, we only moving the "I don't want the
> default printer config" step behind the end of installation. And while
> I agree, that openSUSE's current users may be perfectly fine with the
> installation workflow of their currently installed system, because they
> fortunately do not have to go through it again.
>
> But we want new users. Users that may so far have rejected using openSUSE
> because they failed to install it.

See this:

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Plan of the Battle
  3.) Offer the possibility to enable the second stage on request.
      A reasonable place is the Installation Mode dialog.
--- cut ---

We are still keeping the backward compatibility in mind by simply
selecting a check-box in the Installation Mode dialog (that one with
"New Installation", "Upgrade...).

I fully agree that some users want to control every single step the
installation program does. My test was done from the view: *How much can
we automate the workflow?* And it was still actually only test.

BTW: One more change to the workflow might be done: If user doesn't fill
up a first-user password (in first stage) and/or doesn't select a
check-box to use that password for 'root', the very next dialog should
be added: 'root Password'. User has to set that password anyway, so
waiting for the second stage is pointless. Well, maybe if you install
system for someone else, but this is what we have YaST FirstBoot for.

Lukas