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Re: [opensuse-factory] 11.0 default filesystems again
- From: Rafa Grimán <rafagriman@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:02:39 +0100
- Message-id: <200803041102.39925.rafagriman@xxxxxxxxx>
Hi :)
El Tuesday 04 March 2008, Basil Chupin escribió:
I can't answer that. It's been 13 years since I last used MS-Windows. Maybe
we've been using these filesystems when they weren't really production ready?
Maybe we've been using them for what they were not meant?
I ask this last question because I've been using ext3 for / and XFS for /home
since they first came out. Never had a problem with any of them. Never had
long fsck times with ext3 (my / is 10 GB).
Maybe the problem is not only the filesystem, but the hardware it's running
on: bad drives (aka cheap drives), bad connectors (I've suffered this a lot
of times), bad controllers, old hardware (I've suffered this also), ...
I can only talk about what I've suffered/experienced. I've had data loss with
JFS and reiserfs on new (and not cheap) hardware. When I used ext3 and XFS on
the same hardware ... no issues :) Of course, that is me. Others have had
other problems.
Rafa
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El Tuesday 04 March 2008, Basil Chupin escribió:
Rafa Grimán wrote:
El Tuesday 04 March 2008, Carlos E. R. escribió:
The Tuesday 2008-03-04 at 00:50 -0000, Sid Boyce wrote:
...
Guys were telling me way back to use ext3 in preference to reiserfs
while the kernel mailing list was dealing with a wave of ext3
corruptions. All my reiserfs corruptions then were actually due to
failing IDE ports on motherboards (x4).
I had a reiserfs corruption caused by software.
So have I. And I've also had corruption on JFS partitions. No flame war
intended 0:)
Rafa
So, what does all this mean? Does it mean that the filesystems available
for Linux OSs - such as openSUSE - are no better than those used in M$?
I can't answer that. It's been 13 years since I last used MS-Windows. Maybe
we've been using these filesystems when they weren't really production ready?
Maybe we've been using them for what they were not meant?
I ask this last question because I've been using ext3 for / and XFS for /home
since they first came out. Never had a problem with any of them. Never had
long fsck times with ext3 (my / is 10 GB).
Maybe the problem is not only the filesystem, but the hardware it's running
on: bad drives (aka cheap drives), bad connectors (I've suffered this a lot
of times), bad controllers, old hardware (I've suffered this also), ...
I can only talk about what I've suffered/experienced. I've had data loss with
JFS and reiserfs on new (and not cheap) hardware. When I used ext3 and XFS on
the same hardware ... no issues :) Of course, that is me. Others have had
other problems.
(Earlier today I read about what is happening to Hans Reiser re his
trial on the charge of allegedly murdering his wife. One thing which
most affects this discussion about filesystems is that Namesys is still
in business and is still developing v4 of reiserfs.)
Ciao.
Rafa
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