Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (626 mails)

[Oddball <monkey9@xxxxxx>]

Stanislav Visnovsky schreef:
> Dňa Monday 03 March 2008 17:06:17 Alex ste napísal:
>   
> > Michael Schroeder <mls@xxxxxxx> schrieb am 03.03.2008:
> >     
> > > > 2. Dependancies: Are there plans when a less greedy solver stragegy
> > > > will be implemented? Right now, everything which is "recommended" will
> > > > be installed, or pulled in when doing an update.
> > > >         
> > > That's actually the definition of "recommended", the solver should
> > > select it automatically. What's missing is that it is recorded
> > > somewhere that the user deselected the package afterwards.
> > >       
> > Yes, that would be a solution. Simply a switch that says "only update
> > recommended packages if they are installed. If they are not installed,
> > simply don't bother yourself and the user with them."
> >
> > The definition what is to be recommended for what kind of users is varying,
> > I guess. I don't like getting recommandations getting forced onto me (note:
> > ;) ), as this somehow blurs the distinction between "requirements" and
> > "recommandations" in package management.
> > In many cases I wonder why stuff is being divided up into different
> > packages, only than to depend on/recommend each other...
> >     
>
> The whole idea of 'recommends' is that you are free to remove those packages.
>
>   
> > > Plus,
> > > many packages that are marked as recommended should maybe be
> > > suggested instead, i.e. not automatically selected but displayed
> > > on an extra page. The trouble is, that extra page doesn't exist in
> > > YaST at the moment.
> > >       
> > That IMHO would be the optimum solution. I'd vote for that.
> >
> > However, if I see the speed jump with the latest version of zypper, I'm
> > pretty optimistic that something simple like that will make its way into
> > zypper, too.
> >     
>
> Please, don't mix different things. Speed is one thing, new solver features 
> another one.
>
> Stano
>
>
>   

I want to admit my supportvote to implement a option to 'show 
recommended', and the option to leave them out, an the option to 'show 
deps'.
As i noticed yesterday when i installed acrobatreader, tons of pkgs were 
being pulled in. To get rid of them afterwards is twice as inconvenient: 
Downloadtime, install, lookup, uninstall. Much unnessesary time lost.

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Oddball         (Now or never...)


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