Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (626 mails)

[Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov@xxxxxxx>]

Dňa Monday 03 March 2008 17:06:17 Alex ste napísal:
> Michael Schroeder <mls@xxxxxxx> schrieb am 03.03.2008:
> > > 2. Dependancies: Are there plans when a less greedy solver stragegy
> > > will be implemented? Right now, everything which is "recommended" will
> > > be installed, or pulled in when doing an update.
> >
> > That's actually the definition of "recommended", the solver should
> > select it automatically. What's missing is that it is recorded
> > somewhere that the user deselected the package afterwards.
>
> Yes, that would be a solution. Simply a switch that says "only update
> recommended packages if they are installed. If they are not installed,
> simply don't bother yourself and the user with them."
>
> The definition what is to be recommended for what kind of users is varying,
> I guess. I don't like getting recommandations getting forced onto me (note:
> ;) ), as this somehow blurs the distinction between "requirements" and
> "recommandations" in package management.
> In many cases I wonder why stuff is being divided up into different
> packages, only than to depend on/recommend each other...

The whole idea of 'recommends' is that you are free to remove those packages.

> > Plus,
> > many packages that are marked as recommended should maybe be
> > suggested instead, i.e. not automatically selected but displayed
> > on an extra page. The trouble is, that extra page doesn't exist in
> > YaST at the moment.
>
> That IMHO would be the optimum solution. I'd vote for that.
>
> However, if I see the speed jump with the latest version of zypper, I'm
> pretty optimistic that something simple like that will make its way into
> zypper, too.

Please, don't mix different things. Speed is one thing, new solver features 
another one.

Stano
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