Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (464 mails)

[Michael Meeks <michael.meeks@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 12:44 +0100, Martin Schlander wrote:
> > > the menu bar is completely unusable in openSUSE: icons are too big
> > > (distro patch), and there are tons of submenus (because we use the same
> > > menu config as KDE?)
>
> Not having the second level of categorization makes the menu much more messy 
> and cluttered. Unless your next great idea is to install only a handful 
> programs.

        Your tone seems a little dismissive. Personally, I asked Vincent to
write-down all these issues he sees: little things add up to a large
amount of pain in the aggregate; also, when you become familiar with a
new distro, often you work around these problems & stop noticing them so
much - though they are still there.

> I think the general point of view around these parts is that the success of 
> Ubuntu has a lot more to do with astoute marketing trickery, than with 
> technological prowess.

        I don't share that view, though there is clearly some truth to it - and
thankfully there is far less of a technical gap nowadays with live CDs,
fast & easy package management & so on, which are great improvements to
OpenSUSE.

        Whether it is true or not however; the fact remains that it needs to be
easy & comfortable for Ubuntu users to move across to OpenSUSE. Perhaps
that is just a matter of documentation, of course.

> You can dumb down GNOME and yast-gtk as much as you want, but please
> don't destroy the rest of the distro.

        Speaking of which, Vincent: did you see:

                https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=113531

        Right up your street, and prolly needs resurrecting & including, as AJ
says, KDE does this & it makes their menus (for the same .desktops) suck
less. Having said that some re-categorisation of the GNOME apps would
prolly help too.

        HTH,

                Michael.

-- 
 michael.meeks@xxxxxxxxxx  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot


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