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Re: [opensuse-factory] Releasing openSUSE Alphas with debuginfo/symbols installed by default
- From: "Dominique Leuenberger" <Dominique.Leuenberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:05:47 +0100
- Message-id: <47B4208A.2554.0029.1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi,
I think that's quiet rude against people developping any application. It
already happened to me creating a package, and my final product always crashed
upoin start. So instead of just debugging the whole thing (including underlying
libs) I would have to open a bug report and 'wait' for the debuginfo packages?
So in plus putting some work on the staff for delivering packages for me to
debug something which (for reasons) is not even part of the openSUSE
distribution?
In this specific case, I could just install the debug info packages I needed
(and guess: I of course did not see from the very beginning which ones could be
interesting... so adding one after another, so alternaively requesting one
after another) and the error finally lied in a lib, and not in the product I
packaged... lbrary fixed, patch submitted upstream and everything is fine...
I think the debuginfo packages need to be available on the download system,
easy accessible. For the final product and for factory. (Factory for testing
and good bugreporting against the distro, on final product for bugtracking
against other products).
Dominique
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On 2/14/2008 at 02:03, Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@xxxxxxx> wrote:and again how does the developer fit into your picture? he sits at home
and debugs his app and wants the whole backtrace through all libs.
should he open a bugreport to get the required packages?
Why not, for such rare cases?
Again, I would like to see your decision depend on real statistics.
I think that's quiet rude against people developping any application. It
already happened to me creating a package, and my final product always crashed
upoin start. So instead of just debugging the whole thing (including underlying
libs) I would have to open a bug report and 'wait' for the debuginfo packages?
So in plus putting some work on the staff for delivering packages for me to
debug something which (for reasons) is not even part of the openSUSE
distribution?
In this specific case, I could just install the debug info packages I needed
(and guess: I of course did not see from the very beginning which ones could be
interesting... so adding one after another, so alternaively requesting one
after another) and the error finally lied in a lib, and not in the product I
packaged... lbrary fixed, patch submitted upstream and everything is fine...
I think the debuginfo packages need to be available on the download system,
easy accessible. For the final product and for factory. (Factory for testing
and good bugreporting against the distro, on final product for bugtracking
against other products).
Dominique
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