Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (464 mails)

[Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 schrieb Alex:
> Why were they forcibly  installed in the first place??

Because they are "recommended" packages and our alpha1 solver likes
to make your system complete. As workaround edit /etc/zypp/locks and
put all packages in there you don't want to see.

> E.g. "doc"-Packages: Yast always insists on installing e.g. kdelibs3-doc,
> PolicyKit-doc, readline-doc and so on.
> (For PolicyKit-doc, I yesterday even caught Yast installing a
> *.i586.rpm-package on my 64bit-system without any kind of warning,
> something I really dislike, because I had some nasty system failures when
> 32bit (binary) packages were mistakenly installed by the package management
> system in former times.)
As said in the Alpha1 release announcement: please create test cases whenever
you see something strange with package management. i586 packages on 64bit _is_
such a strange case.

> Yast also insists on installing a full 32bit KDE3 subsystem on my 64bit
> system (with all the dozens of other necessary 32bit libs), although no
> 32bit KDE app at all is installed.
There is kdebase3-nsplugin which provides you access to 32bit flash-player and 
it's installed by default and pulls in many 32bit dependencies.

> OpenOffice: I prefer a lean installation with only some parts of it, but
> Yast forrces me to do a pretty full install with every update (all
> templates, additional english language and so on).
>
> I could go on with many more examples. My question is: Am I getting
> something completely wrong here, or is this intended behaviour of Yast? Is
> this, because certain patternss are active - and if yes, how do I get rid
> of them? Because, what good is it to have fine-grained packages if the
> dependancy check pulls everything nevertheless ;) ?
We're still lacking a way to make decisions about packages persistent, this is
something to be worked on for 11.0 - for now it's a intended behaviour and you 
can workaround it with /etc/zypp/locks 

> BTW: Is there a way of getting rid of the "bundle-language"-meta-Packages
> to only install the needed rpms?
the needed rpms will be larger than the bundles, but you can easily 
zypper in bundle-lang-other
zypper remove bundle-lang-kde-<$LANG> bundle-lang-common-<$LANG>

See for example my system:

The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
  amarok-lang avahi-lang beagle-lang digikam-lang gwenview-lang k3b-lang
kdebase3-SuSE-lang kdebluetooth-lang kdetv-lang kerry-lang kipi-plugins-lang
konversation-lang kpowersave-lang libkipi0-lang libwnck-lang
notification-daemon-lang

The following packages are going to be REMOVED:
  bundle-lang-common-de bundle-lang-gnome-de bundle-lang-kde-de

Overall download size: 33.7 M. After the operation, additional 60.2 M will be 
used.
Continue? [yes/no]: 

So you can install "only needed rpms", but they are actually 60M larger

Greetings, Stephan
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