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Re: [opensuse-factory] suggested work around for zypper/libzypp
- From: Klaus Kaempf <kkaempf@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:55:48 +0200
- Message-id: <20071008115548.GB18218@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Volker Kuhlmann <list0570@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [Oct 08. 2007 12:37]:
> On Mon 08 Oct 2007 22:11:52 NZDT +1300, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
>
> > It depends on the number of packages. For a normal maintenance update
> > with only a handful of packages, download all is probably a good
> > strategy.
> >
> > With distribution upgrade (i.e. 10.2->10.3) or factory update with
> > hundreds of packages, you'll need quite some disk space ;-)
>
> Uhhmm, like, 4.2GB tops, that being the size of the DVD which is a
> fits-all? What's the smallest disk you can buy these days, 80GB? 120GB?
Hehe. Disks are always 99% full, no matter the size ;-)
Actually, my Laptop (with 60GB disk) runs with Xen and a couple of
LVM partitions each approx. 80% used. The maximum space left is less
than a gig.
Bottom line: There are pros and cons for both approaches.
>
> > Whats the exit strategy if the disk space is not sufficient ?
>
> Display a warning before starting. Size of all packages/files to
> download is known before download begins. There is df.
Sure. But what to do if the size is not sufficient ?
>
> What I would like to see is the creation of a download cache which can
> be copied/shared with other hosts (which would imply it's not created at
> /var/lib/random/phaseofmoon/day-of-week/yast/). The cache only contains
> what's needed at least once, not the whole shebang. Debian (so I
> believe) hits the nail square on the head there.
And we're determined to implement such a cache in the next
version of OpenSUSE.
Klaus
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> On Mon 08 Oct 2007 22:11:52 NZDT +1300, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
>
> > It depends on the number of packages. For a normal maintenance update
> > with only a handful of packages, download all is probably a good
> > strategy.
> >
> > With distribution upgrade (i.e. 10.2->10.3) or factory update with
> > hundreds of packages, you'll need quite some disk space ;-)
>
> Uhhmm, like, 4.2GB tops, that being the size of the DVD which is a
> fits-all? What's the smallest disk you can buy these days, 80GB? 120GB?
Hehe. Disks are always 99% full, no matter the size ;-)
Actually, my Laptop (with 60GB disk) runs with Xen and a couple of
LVM partitions each approx. 80% used. The maximum space left is less
than a gig.
Bottom line: There are pros and cons for both approaches.
>
> > Whats the exit strategy if the disk space is not sufficient ?
>
> Display a warning before starting. Size of all packages/files to
> download is known before download begins. There is df.
Sure. But what to do if the size is not sufficient ?
>
> What I would like to see is the creation of a download cache which can
> be copied/shared with other hosts (which would imply it's not created at
> /var/lib/random/phaseofmoon/day-of-week/yast/). The cache only contains
> what's needed at least once, not the whole shebang. Debian (so I
> believe) hits the nail square on the head there.
And we're determined to implement such a cache in the next
version of OpenSUSE.
Klaus
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