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[opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...
- From: Christian Boltz <opensuse@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:44:03 +0200
- Message-id: <200708270144.06445@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hello,
I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit
adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install
beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are
critical from my POV :-(
Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday
Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview:
- my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all
partitions" (and: no, I don't think that
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the
solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition
earlier)
- /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted
partitions while installation fails
- /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
fails
- /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure
at bootloader installation
- installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to
use hda - workaround: change fstab manually
- the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken
- the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the
"update-test-*" packages
- I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2
installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of
conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change"
and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog.
I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be
refreshed.
- strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which
is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared
with version 0.7.
- on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably
because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM.
Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM...
Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB
y2logs.
Question: does "manual" mode create bigger logs does this always
happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual
installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source
in the first run - already filed a bug about this)
Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the
logs or add swap."
- oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got
about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...
- dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast
after you have solved them)
- for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages
I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language
by default.
- Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus
packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal -
which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package
selection in the pattern details view
- what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...
- java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be
obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package
- YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why
- installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error
message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open:
Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
%post failed with exit status 127
affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer
- according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version
10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory
- SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have
more than one FIXME ;-)
- opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have
installed both of them now
And some things I already found in the running system:
- something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while installation, so
my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot
(workaround: insserv it again)
- opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists
also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?)
- opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the
bottom - where's the patch description?
- the new opensuse-updater-kde initially shows only an overview. I'm not
yet sure if I really like this (for me it's a click more to see the
available updates) - so please add an "always show details" checkbox.
- YOU doesn't display information about packages, just lists the patches
(empty list at the right section of the window)
I would be happy if someone could add a short note to every item if it
is already known or if I need to file a bugreport ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
PS: I'll now going to verify if all YaST modules support the help
parameter (bugs 269886 to 269914) to get a better feeling...
--
> Am Besten wäre natürlich, den Owner von /dev/usbkabel ;-) zu
> überprüfen *g*
Dieses Device ist IMHO aber erst im neuen Kernel vorgesehen. Hast
Du da etwa schon einen Patch für den SuSE-Kernel? ;-)
[> Christian Boltz und Harald Krause in suse-linux]
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I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit
adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install
beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are
critical from my POV :-(
Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday
Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview:
- my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all
partitions" (and: no, I don't think that
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the
solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition
earlier)
- /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted
partitions while installation fails
- /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except /
fails
- /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure
at bootloader installation
- installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to
use hda - workaround: change fstab manually
- the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken
- the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the
"update-test-*" packages
- I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2
installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of
conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change"
and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog.
I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be
refreshed.
- strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which
is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared
with version 0.7.
- on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably
because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM.
Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM...
Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB
y2logs.
Question: does "manual" mode create bigger logs does this always
happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual
installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source
in the first run - already filed a bug about this)
Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the
logs or add swap."
- oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got
about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...
- dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast
after you have solved them)
- for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages
I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language
by default.
- Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus
packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal -
which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package
selection in the pattern details view
- what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...
- java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be
obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package
- YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why
- installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error
message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open:
Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]"
%post failed with exit status 127
affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer
- according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version
10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory
- SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have
more than one FIXME ;-)
- opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have
installed both of them now
And some things I already found in the running system:
- something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while installation, so
my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot
(workaround: insserv it again)
- opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists
also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?)
- opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the
bottom - where's the patch description?
- the new opensuse-updater-kde initially shows only an overview. I'm not
yet sure if I really like this (for me it's a click more to see the
available updates) - so please add an "always show details" checkbox.
- YOU doesn't display information about packages, just lists the patches
(empty list at the right section of the window)
I would be happy if someone could add a short note to every item if it
is already known or if I need to file a bugreport ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
PS: I'll now going to verify if all YaST modules support the help
parameter (bugs 269886 to 269914) to get a better feeling...
--
> Am Besten wäre natürlich, den Owner von /dev/usbkabel ;-) zu
> überprüfen *g*
Dieses Device ist IMHO aber erst im neuen Kernel vorgesehen. Hast
Du da etwa schon einen Patch für den SuSE-Kernel? ;-)
[> Christian Boltz und Harald Krause in suse-linux]
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