Here're the minutes from the last meeting, Andreas * dbus restart Restarting of d-bus needs special handling in every package, otherwise they might crash. Upstream d-bus maintainer currently say that d-bus should not get restarted. The long-term goal is that all applications and services should handle d-bus restarts gracefully. For the short term, we will advice the user to reboot the system and not automatically restart d-bus during package updates. * Moving d-bus to / This is need for some potential changes in hal. Since we did not have enough details, we decided to stay for now with the default and rediscuss when needed. * Shared library policy see: http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy If nobody raises objections, we'll move forward with it and add it to the packagers manual. Note: This is not enforced for existing packages. It should be done for major updates and must be done for new package submissions. AI: everybody to read and comment on opensuse-packaging mailing list. * Improve debuginfo packages To get a complete stack trace, we need several debuginfo packages. The simple idea would be to copy dependencies from the main package to the debuginfo package. But this would give too many dependencies since it would lead to include always the gcc-debuginfo package (currently 300 MB). Another idea is to reduce the size of debuginfo packages and mark them only for backtrace - with removing the source code. We run out of time and will discuss this further next time. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126